From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,d0f6c37e3c1b712a X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx02.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!feeder.news-service.com!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!news.arcor.de!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada in Debian: most libraries will switch to the pure GPL in Etch From: Georg Bauhaus In-Reply-To: References: <1151405920.523542.137920@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com> <1151422118.772405.307200@j72g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87ac7ypaaa.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> Content-Type: text/plain Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: # Message-ID: <1151493268.24349.37.camel@localhost> Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Evolution 2.6.1 Date: Wed, 28 Jun 2006 13:14:29 +0200 NNTP-Posting-Date: 28 Jun 2006 13:12:36 MEST NNTP-Posting-Host: f70aaf96.newsread2.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC==Y?DT4ahmU;JeejX:=P9Ihe`B8@Z?dZ]MOid5 X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:5204 Date: 2006-06-28T13:12:36+02:00 List-Id: On Wed, 2006-06-28 at 10:51 +0000, Dr. Adrian Wrigley wrote: > "In order for these freedoms to be real, they must be irrevocable as long > as you do nothing wrong; if the developer of the software has the power to > revoke the license, without your doing anything to give cause, the > software is not free." > > It seems pretty clear from the general industry practice in software > that GPL is not revocable. The Ada software in question does not > meet this definition of Free Software if the GMGPL licences really > have been revoked. There is no instance of anything being revoked, AFAICS, if AdaCore is entitled to drop the exception from the source they distribute, which might feel like something has been revoked. I doubt this is an adequate description of the (GM)GPL legal situation. The license text is the GPL in either case, GPL or GPL with the special exception. If any license has been granted to anyone, and they have been told their license has been revoked, although they have done nothing wrong, please speak up. > The strange thing is that nobody seems to benefit from the changes > and the consequent FUD :( Right. This is why this thread should not continue to try to construct or reconstruct, or invent, what supposedly was or is legally relevant information in some past, freely mixing the past and the present. All we have is hints, and AdaCore notes from two different points in time.