From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!news.eternal-september.org!mx02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!newsfeed.kamp.net!newsfeed.kamp.net!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail From: Bill Findlay Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: ee9 V2.0, the GNU Ada KDF9 emulator Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2015 02:52:29 +0000 Message-ID: <1150435496.468642767.023613.yaldnif.w-blueyonder.co.uk@news.individual.net> References: <649162553.468471915.098991.foo@ios.app.newstap> <60a07581-891f-411c-b3ce-22eaf5119279@googlegroups.com> <1407020961.468638712.030899.yaldnif.w-blueyonder.co.uk@news.individual.net> <6b04ef32-4cf3-4f29-b5bd-e5ea52637e03@googlegroups.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: individual.net a0VdVpZFc1egm8GjQAQEHgnlYzdhGJB/drlDwJHje4OM/db445 Cancel-Lock: sha1:s3bcBrSOFT+FnI1Wo1FebMJYYDc= sha1:R3i5vSs6aMPDkVdj2dmgccmyXrw= User-Agent: NewsTap/5.1 (iPad) Xref: news.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:28274 Date: 2015-11-08T02:52:29+00:00 List-Id: wrote: > On Sunday, November 8, 2015 at 12:34:11 PM UTC+11, Bill Findlay wrote: >> wrote: >>> On Friday, November 6, 2015 at 2:11:52 PM UTC+11, Bill Findlay wrote: >>>> .. is now available for OSX, Windows, Linux 32 & 64 bit, and Raspberry Pi, >>>> at: >>>> >>>> http://www.findlayw.plus.com/KDF9/#Emulator >>> >>> The URL says : >>> "KDF9 was one of the first computers to support Algol 60, ..." >>> >>> In fact, the implementors of the KDF9 Algol compiler >>> adapted that compiler to run on DEUCE, before the KDF9 was available, >>> in order to test the design. >>> (you might recall that the KDF9 was running late). > >> And you might recall what "one of" means. >> >> The website at the URL also says: "[the KDF9 Algol project] engendered >> Algol 60 implementations on many other computers, including the EE DEUCE, > > DEUCE Algol PREceded KDF9 Algol, as I said. > The X1 Algol compiler (1961, if not earlier) preceded KDF9 > [and upon which the KDF9 Algol was based]. I am fully aware of those facts and they do not contradict anything I have said or implied. > And you might recall that "engendered" is the term used, > and does not list other Algol implementations. ?? then what are these: >> the Ferranti Pegasus, the NPL ACE, the EE KDF6, the Soviet Minsk range, the >> EE System 4/50, the IBM System 360/25, the Phillips PRS8000, the Elliott >> 903, and the Indian ECIL TDC-316." > > Some of these post-date KDF9 Algol. You don't say! > ACE - 1955 the NPL ACE did not exist in 1955. Perhaps you confuse it with the Pilot ACE, which did not have an Algol compiler. You seem remarkably keen to pick a fight over something I did not say. As it happens I have personal contact with Brian Randell, one of the authors of DEUCE/KDF9 Algol and am well aware of its history. Had you investigated my website instead of jumping to peevish conclusions, you would have found a DEUCE Algol document dated 1963, some months before the first KDF9 was delivered. This is my last communication on the subject, as I refuse to stroke your ego with any further attention. Anyone looking for accurate information on KDF9 Algol, approved by one of its authors, can consult my website. -- Bill Findlay