From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,23c85e456e18d6b5 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: igouy@yahoo.com Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: The Computer Language Shootout Benchmarks Date: 6 May 2006 09:01:16 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1146931276.041971.275980@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <1262902.DI8C0e8O9o@linux1.krischik.com> <4457afb1$1_1@news.bluewin.ch> <1146900846.729170.276400@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 24.6.178.189 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1146931281 27362 127.0.0.1 (6 May 2006 16:01:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 6 May 2006 16:01:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.0.3) Gecko/20060426 Firefox/1.5.0.3,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=24.6.178.189; posting-account=7DGySgwAAADWW5O_600A0X4F7Tvs4mwJ Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:4117 Date: 2006-05-06T09:01:16-07:00 List-Id: Craig Carey wrote: > On 6 May 2006 00:34:06 -0700, igouy@yahoo.com wrote: > ... > > > >When F < 1 the result displayed is -1/F > > > > The allegations of fraud have not been removed. It would be polite to check your assumptions before making public accusations of fraud. > There is nothing to suggest that you are an authoritity on the > topic, Read the FAQ http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/faq.php#start Read the acknowledgements http://shootout.alioth.debian.org/gp4/miscfile.php?file=acknowledgements&title=acknowledgements Read the copyright notice in the PHP code that generates the webpage http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/shootout/website/lib/headtohead.tpl.php?rev=1.42&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=shootout Read the PHP code that generates the webpage if ($cpuValue<1 && $cpuValue!=0){ $cpuValue = -1/$cpuValue; } http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/shootout/website/lib/headtohead.tpl.php?rev=1.42&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=shootout > and also the data does not provide any support, since > there is still a mismatch between the numbers. > > The facts taken from the named webpages: > > Summary: -1.8 > > Raw Data: 7.21 secs for GNAT, and 4.12 secs for C. More false assumptions - that is not "Raw Data" - those numbers are being rounded to 2 places for display. The calculation is not done with those numbers or with "Raw Data". The calculation is done with data rounded to 3 places - these numbers 7.207 4.118 - you can find them data.csv http://cvs.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/cvsweb.cgi/shootout/website/data/data.csv?rev=1.437&content-type=text/x-cvsweb-markup&cvsroot=shootout > > The bounds are: > 7.215 / 4.115, = 1.7533414 > 7.205 / 4.125, = 1.7466666 > > The figure -1.8 is outside of the range. More false assumptions. 4.118 / 7.207 = 0.57138 -1 / 0.571 = -1.75012 rounded to 1 place for display = -1.8 > > Now there is resaon to suspect that the purpose for the Intel > 'half' of the website may be unacceptable to an Ada community. > > You didn't put enough words into the e-mail to actually make out > an argument. So far the topic here is one of getting rid of the > allegation that final results are falsified. This is not a > Haskell mailing list that hints the corruption might have been > a motive by pretending to have a leaked e-mail from a > benchmark website subvrting bribe-paying C consortium. The topic here is someone making malicious public accusations based on nothing more than their own ignorance.