From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,714734f0692568f9,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: peter@psyche.demon.co.uk Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: What happened to the Ada Apse? Date: 19 Feb 2006 23:12:03 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1140419523.147808.274020@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 168.209.97.34 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1140419541 15934 127.0.0.1 (20 Feb 2006 07:12:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2006 07:12:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 5.5; Windows NT 5.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322),gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.0 OMRISA020, 1.1 netcache1-ctn (NetCache NetApp/5.5R6) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=168.209.97.34; posting-account=Q-pDzAwAAACdAZw6Fzhg5_fZxi5Ua1mS Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3007 Date: 2006-02-19T23:12:03-08:00 List-Id: I see that the last message on this topic in this group was from a 1994 survey where a Swiss University was going to produce an Apse for Ada. Has anything happened anywhere about this since? As an embedded system, you'd have thought that Ada was pretty easy language to write an Apse in. Since all the Unix commands are available in C, it should also be fairly easy for somebody to translate them, or at least those that might be useful, to run in the Apse. Is there a good reason (Linux?) why nobody has produced an Apse - if, that is, they haven't? There was a recent article discussing the huge unreliability of msdros or linux based machines and how commercial use of these was showing that something more reliable was really needed. With Ada now available open-source, it would seem the ideal time for somebody to produce a simple Apse environment to be ported to the popular processes. There's an opportunity to design a nice high-level rational and secure OS from scratch. I'd have thought that people would be leaping at the opportunity! I can see that writing and using a c -> Ada translator to get Unix stuff to run would be a very quick and dirty hack, but it would provide a chance to bootstrap a pukka Apse into place over time - and not that much time.