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From: Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: autotools and ada
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:03:29 +0100
Date: 2005-11-25T19:00:01+01:00	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1132941809.10202.122.camel@sonnenregen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87psoon6j6.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net>

On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 15:31 +0100, Samuel Tardieu wrote:
> >>>>> "Jeffrey" == Jeffrey R Carter <spam@spam.com> writes:
> 
> Jeffrey> My experience, in over 21 yrs using Ada, is that make files
> Jeffrey> are unnecessary. I have never used them.
> 
> Have your programs be installed on totally different target systems?
> At various location? Can they easily be cross-compiled? Can compiler
> flags be changed easily? Can you switch compilers easily?
> 
> All this requires work and this work can be alleviated using
> autotools. Makefiles are not for compilation only.

This work can be alleviated in Unix(-like) environments only.

$ variable=`program1 | program2 'parameters'`

requires a specific flavor of process control, piping, availability
of program1 and program2. If the output of such constructs is
just some string identifying the systems, I can only think of this
as a kludge. autotools are that way throughout.

My suspicion is that people will hardly ever have a chance
of learning how to use their language to good effect to reduce
the need for configuration. Reason: autotools is popular and has
the well known seduction trick built in: Users think they don't
need to think. 

-- Georg 





  reply	other threads:[~2005-11-25 18:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2005-11-23  8:16 autotools and ada Ottavio Campana
2005-11-23  9:31 ` Matthieu Moy
2005-11-23  8:39   ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-23  9:33     ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-23 10:04       ` Ottavio Campana
2005-11-23 10:14     ` Stephen Leake
2005-11-23 10:28       ` Ottavio Campana
2005-11-23 10:37         ` Ottavio Campana
2005-11-23 10:44       ` Jerome Hugues
2005-11-23 11:40         ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-11-23 12:39           ` Jerome Hugues
2005-11-24 11:17         ` Stephen Leake
2005-11-24 12:01           ` Jerome Hugues
2005-11-24 14:23             ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-11-24 13:10           ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-25  5:25 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-25  6:28   ` Brian May
2005-11-25 14:31   ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-11-25 18:03     ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2005-11-25 18:53       ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-25 19:33         ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-25 19:35           ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-25 20:59         ` Björn Persson
2005-11-25 21:43           ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-25 23:21             ` Björn Persson
2005-11-26  6:51               ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-25 16:36   ` Stephen Leake
2005-11-26  1:26     ` Jeffrey R. Carter
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