From: Georg Bauhaus <bauhaus@futureapps.de>
Subject: Re: autotools and ada
Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 19:03:29 +0100
Date: 2005-11-25T19:00:01+01:00 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1132941809.10202.122.camel@sonnenregen> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87psoon6j6.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net>
On Fri, 2005-11-25 at 15:31 +0100, Samuel Tardieu wrote:
> >>>>> "Jeffrey" == Jeffrey R Carter <spam@spam.com> writes:
>
> Jeffrey> My experience, in over 21 yrs using Ada, is that make files
> Jeffrey> are unnecessary. I have never used them.
>
> Have your programs be installed on totally different target systems?
> At various location? Can they easily be cross-compiled? Can compiler
> flags be changed easily? Can you switch compilers easily?
>
> All this requires work and this work can be alleviated using
> autotools. Makefiles are not for compilation only.
This work can be alleviated in Unix(-like) environments only.
$ variable=`program1 | program2 'parameters'`
requires a specific flavor of process control, piping, availability
of program1 and program2. If the output of such constructs is
just some string identifying the systems, I can only think of this
as a kludge. autotools are that way throughout.
My suspicion is that people will hardly ever have a chance
of learning how to use their language to good effect to reduce
the need for configuration. Reason: autotools is popular and has
the well known seduction trick built in: Users think they don't
need to think.
-- Georg
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2005-11-25 18:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2005-11-23 8:16 autotools and ada Ottavio Campana
2005-11-23 9:31 ` Matthieu Moy
2005-11-23 8:39 ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-23 9:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-23 10:04 ` Ottavio Campana
2005-11-23 10:14 ` Stephen Leake
2005-11-23 10:28 ` Ottavio Campana
2005-11-23 10:37 ` Ottavio Campana
2005-11-23 10:44 ` Jerome Hugues
2005-11-23 11:40 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-11-23 12:39 ` Jerome Hugues
2005-11-24 11:17 ` Stephen Leake
2005-11-24 12:01 ` Jerome Hugues
2005-11-24 14:23 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-11-24 13:10 ` Martin Dowie
2005-11-25 5:25 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
2005-11-25 6:28 ` Brian May
2005-11-25 14:31 ` Samuel Tardieu
2005-11-25 18:03 ` Georg Bauhaus [this message]
2005-11-25 18:53 ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-25 19:33 ` Georg Bauhaus
2005-11-25 19:35 ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-25 20:59 ` Björn Persson
2005-11-25 21:43 ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-25 23:21 ` Björn Persson
2005-11-26 6:51 ` Pascal Obry
2005-11-25 16:36 ` Stephen Leake
2005-11-26 1:26 ` Jeffrey R. Carter
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