From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,2c7b0b777188b7c4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Steve Whalen" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades Date: 27 Oct 2005 22:10:16 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1130476216.365009.9090@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1128499462.850353.146890@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87ek6zom2h.fsf@ludovic-brenta.org> <87ek697ga5.fsf@willow.rfc1149.net> <435e99ee$0$23939$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> <1130321538.366226.26460@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <4360b346$0$22526$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.238.135.165 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1130476221 7000 127.0.0.1 (28 Oct 2005 05:10:21 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 05:10:21 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20050915,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=68.238.135.165; posting-account=GBMmzA0AAABrZ0dHOASa3b2Cdf-RliH9 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6020 Date: 2005-10-27T22:10:16-07:00 List-Id: Georg Bauhaus wrote: > Steve Whalen wrote: > > The FSF CVS tree is NOT equivalent because "we" have to compile usable > > binaries on whichever platform we want to use the Ada compiler on, > > You don't have to compile GNAT yourself if you are using Windows, > or GNU/Linux (or Solaris, I believe), or Mac OS X. That should cover > a number of non-embedded platforms, don't you think? > In fact, Debian/GNU Linux has an integrated set of additional libraries > for use with GNAT. I'm sorry I started out that paragraph with "compiling". I should have skipped that and gone straight to the real problem with the FSF tree releases: >> I can't think of a single time so far when the FSF gcc Ada >> has been as "good" as any of the AdaCore public releases >> because of the difficulty of getting a "stable" version of >> Ada in the CVS repository at the same time the rest of gcc >> was "stable". This is why we will miss the AdaCore GMGPL public releases. The GMGPL code may be buried in the FSF source tree, but the C and C++ languages still drive the FSF "releases". Ada is just along for the ride and if I'm wrong I hope someone will correct me, but I don't recall a single time since Ada "joined" the FSF tree that the FSF release produced an Ada compiler that was equal in quality to any of the AdaCore public releases. The C++ compiler in an FSF release is usually just fine, but Ada does not have "the clout" to hold up an FSF/gcc release until the Ada portion is "stable". Steve