From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,2c7b0b777188b7c4 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Ludovic Brenta" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL Edition Maintenance and Upgrades Date: 5 Oct 2005 01:04:22 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1128499462.850353.146890@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: NNTP-Posting-Host: 212.190.145.10 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1128499467 21702 127.0.0.1 (5 Oct 2005 08:04:27 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2005 08:04:27 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; SunOS sun4u; fr-FR; rv:1.6) Gecko/20040116,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 SEVPXS01 Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=212.190.145.10; posting-account=ZjNXewwAAADyBPkwI57_UcX8yKfXWOss Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:5393 Date: 2005-10-05T01:04:22-07:00 List-Id: Marc A. Criley a =E9crit : > (Hmm, this subject seems to have sputtered out, better get some > gasoline... :-) > > I wrote to AdaCore to ask them what their maintenance and upgrade > intentions were for the GNAT GPL Edition. > > I received a quite timely response that said their intent is to "[keep] > this version roughly in sync with the latest GNAT Pro releases" and "in > fact the latest GPL edition is more recent than the latest GNAT Pro > official release, it corresponds to the more recent GNAT Pro Ada 2005 Bet= a". > > Maybe Ludovic should rerun his Debian survey? Declining to include a > maintained Ada development environment on a Linux distribution may be > unwise... I warned against this on several occasions, and urged respondents to the survey to take all aspects into consideration. I also said that no matter what, GCC in Debian will never be as good as the GNAT GPL Edition. Also, packaging GNAT GPL 2005 Edition was my first intention (per the Debian Ada Policy, which I'm in the process of updating). This apparently has had little or no effect on the results. OTOH, I wouldn't want to spend my time on packages that nobody uses. Also, while the "selfish argument" has no effect on my decision[1], I am sensitive to the "interoperability argument", which pleads in favour of GCC. As a heads-up: I have not yet started the transition, so it is still time, if you wish, to cast more votes which perhaps will change the outcome. My plan is to wait for a month or so. The gcc_4_1_branch is due to be created in the coming days or weeks on gcc.gnu.org; I feel confident that the corresponding Debian package will appear soon thereafter in unstable or in experimental. I will start the transition when this happens. [1] Quite to the contrary; the more I hear the "selfish argument", the more I feel inclined to package GNAT GPL Edition, just to teach selfish people that if they refuse to give, then they cannot take, as Georg Bauhaus said so nicely. --=20 Ludovic Brenta.