From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,3e26dfa741e64e5f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: wojtek@power.com.pl Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available Date: 19 Sep 2005 16:49:35 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1127173775.245815.6580@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> References: <432919be$0$10539$4d4eb98e@read.news.fr.uu.net> <1126868191.519850.18060@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 84.40.134.170 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1127173780 14148 127.0.0.1 (19 Sep 2005 23:49:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 23:49:40 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716 Firefox/1.0.6,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com; posting-host=84.40.134.170; posting-account=KrVmowoAAADVnx8YZs7PBEa3vuGcpn5w Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4917 Date: 2005-09-19T16:49:35-07:00 List-Id: > I asked for votes about the next Ada compiler in Debian only because I > want to do what users want. Well, I'm one of those few crazy SME people actually trying to produce some commercial software in Ada. No, I do not feel betrayed :-) But GNAT GPL is not an option for us, neither are AdaCore support fees, at least for the time being :-) Apart from this, AdaCore has just surprised some people. Is there any indication that this relase is not incidental and that there are going to be follow-up releases in this line? > If this dependence on AdaCore is really a problem, the solution is > independence from AdaCore, not complaints. This independence exists > today in the form of the FSF tree. It exists and I believe it will continue to exist. FSF is the copyright holder, so if the "Modified" clause were removed from FSF tree, AdaCore would be unable to provide the runtime sources to its customers under GMGPL anymore, either. Finally, this is not new. The same happened to MySQL and SAPDB - drivers went from LGPL to GPL, which surprised many people. XFree86 has been forked because some people wanted to be more famous than other. OpenBSD has forked apache because of their new license. Now GNAT, oh well. Regards, Wojtek