From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,c0d427d5f4af20f8 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "REH" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: generics in Ada 83 Date: 19 Sep 2005 10:58:28 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1127152708.824683.290990@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1126617980.932226.320710@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126703715.202970.293880@g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1126711381.425805.248380@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.91.173.42 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1127152714 18856 127.0.0.1 (19 Sep 2005 17:58:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 17:58:34 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: User-Agent: G2/0.2 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.7.10) Gecko/20050716,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=192.91.173.42; posting-account=lnUIyw0AAACoRB2fMF2SFTIilm8F10q2 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4890 Date: 2005-09-19T10:58:28-07:00 List-Id: Robert A Duff wrote: > "Hyman Rosen" writes: > > > Jean-Pierre Rosen wrote: > > > In Ada, there is no need to check legality on the expansion of the > > > generic. Correct me if I'm wrong, but my understanding of templates is > > > that the legality is rechecked for each instantiation. > > > > Well, in Ada, instantiations check the parameters for validity > > against whatever contract the generic specifies for them. In C++, > > the contract is implied by the usage within the template, so yes, > > the legality is rechecked that way. But remember that in C++ > > template instatntiation is done strictly at compile-time. As far > > as the programmer is concerned, either an instantiation validly > > meets the template's requirements for its parameters, or the code > > fails to compile, and that is true for both languages (or at least > > I think that's true for Ada). > > That's right. > > The Ada way makes it easier to understand what the contract _is_. > And this implies that if you want to change the generic/template, > it's easier to understand whether or not you might break any clients. > (If you're writing a widely-used library, you might not have access to > all existing clients, so you can't compile them to see if they break.) > It also implies that the error messages are easier to understand, > especially with multiple layers of templates. > > On the other hand, the C++ way is more powerful. > > - Bob That has got to be the best argument I have ever seem for Ada generics. Thank you, REH