From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,a9bbfb8cd49f1a51 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Dan McLeran" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Isn't this in favour of Ada?? Date: 19 Jul 2005 08:41:47 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1121787706.969371.196470@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <42d64dde$0$64794$edfadb0f@dread12.news.tele.dk> <1121352985.715265.125490@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 192.55.20.36 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1121787712 23460 127.0.0.1 (19 Jul 2005 15:41:52 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Jul 2005 15:41:52 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=192.55.20.36; posting-account=yQ1dFQ0AAABLBGUWHw1Cfd373Z2t_ywx Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:3675 Date: 2005-07-19T08:41:47-07:00 List-Id: I don't think one can say that SW engineers use Ada and everyone else is a coder. I'm sure we all know of some skilled people who do not promote or use Ada. Having said that, I do believe that Ada is the best tool out there for the creation of software that does what the engineer/coder intended, which makes me wonder why programmers as a whole do not gravitate towards the best tools available. Is syntax that important? I'm starting to wonder what's wrong with SW engineers. There seems to be an almost religious attachment to programming language. I don't perceive the same kind of behaviour out of other engineering disciplines. You'd be hard pressed to find a structural engineer who refuses to use a superior tool/building process/etc. just because he/she is used to doing things a different way. This kind of thought process seemingly doesn't enter their minds. As long as cost is not prohibitive, these engineers will use the best tools/materials for their job because they don't want their bridges and buildings collapsing on us. Do SW engineers not feel the same sense of responsibility for their products? In our (programming) community there seems to be alot of zealotry about the tools we use to build software. Since when does personal preference count for anything when the goal is a quality product that behaves as expected by the customer?