From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,f2690a5e963b61b6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Matthew Heaney" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GCC 4.0 Ada.Containers Cursor danger. Date: 5 Jul 2005 13:06:23 -0700 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1120593983.215972.308010@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> References: <1120474891.635131.216700@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120575076.876798.108220@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120583470.429264.325450@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120586558.930583.79880@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120590526.790939.236390@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120591595.158965.50780@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <1120592684.622723.174350@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.162.65.162 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1120593989 21058 127.0.0.1 (5 Jul 2005 20:06:29 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:06:29 +0000 (UTC) In-Reply-To: <1120592684.622723.174350@g44g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> User-Agent: G2/0.2 Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com; posting-host=66.162.65.162; posting-account=Zl1UPAwAAADEsUSm1PMMiDjihtBlZUi_ Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:11873 Date: 2005-07-05T13:06:23-07:00 List-Id: Dmitriy Anisimkov wrote: > << Then what are we arguing about? >> > > About new Ada standard. That is silly. We should be arguing whether you personally are able to write correct programs in Ada. > Safety is not a matter of taste, it is a matter of software quality. > Ada without safety is not better then C++. Safety is a matter of degree. Safety is also in tension with flexibility and efficiency. In fact the Ada 2005 standard container library is much safer than the C++ STL, so your argument is specious, and your comparison to C++ is invidious.