From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f849b,b8d52151b7b306d2 X-Google-Attributes: gidf849b,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,a00006d3c4735d70 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-01-10 02:13:15 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed2.netcologne.de!news.netcologne.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsmm00.sul.t-online.com!t-online.de!news.t-online.com!not-for-mail From: Martin Krischik Newsgroups: comp.arch.embedded,comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Certified C compilers for safety-critical embedded systems Followup-To: comp.arch.embedded Date: Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:51:18 +0100 Organization: AdaCL Message-ID: <1111847.1ikSqa6vRp@linux1.krischik.com> References: <3fe00b82.90228601@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <5802069.JsgInS3tXa@linux1.krischik.com> <1072464162.325936@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1563361.SfB03k3vvC@linux1.krischik.com> <11LvOkBBXw7$EAJw@phaedsys.demon.co.uk> <3ff0687f.528387944@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <1086072.fFeiH4ICbz@linux1.krischik.com> <3ff18d4d.603356952@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <1731094.1f7Irsyk1h@linux1.krischik.com> <3ff1b8ef.614528516@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <3FF1E06D.A351CCB4@yahoo.com> <3ff20cc8.635997032@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <3ff9df16.30249104@News.CIS.DFN.DE> <1073573635.128327@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Reply-To: krischik@users.sourceforge.net Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Trace: news.t-online.com 1073729533 01 3660 qBo1GGEOqLpktce 040110 10:12:13 X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@t-online.de X-ID: TlpxCOZQgeQGRzCm9xsNMLZtJLUMO6FcrwcsSQC7pucKYiN0XE8OEp User-Agent: KNode/0.7.2 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.arch.embedded:7215 comp.lang.ada:4298 Date: 2004-01-08T16:51:18+01:00 List-Id: Hyman Rosen wrote: > Scott Moore wrote: >> "safety critical C" is an oxymoron if I ever heard one. > > Ariane 5! Ariane 5! Nyah nyah! Nyah nyah! That wasn't a programing bug - that was a management bug! The managent decided to use the Ariane 4 software on the Ariane 5. They wanted to save the money on developing *and* testing a new software release. No programer had been asked if the Ariane 4 software was suitable for the Ariane 5. The software was not run thrue a test suit - not even once. Fatal since it was no sporatic problem. It was a 100% allways problem: Ariane 4 is a vertical lift off, the software was designed for vertical lift off. Ariane 5 is a tilted lift off. With Regards Martin -- mailto://krischik@users.sourceforge.net http://www.ada.krischik.com