From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Jerry Coffin" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: 26 Mar 2005 01:02:35 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1111827755.497376.232760@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1110032222.447846.167060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <3SjWd.103128$Vf.3969241@news000.worldonline.dk> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <1110052142.832650@athnrd02> <1110284070.410136.205090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <395uqaF5rhu2mU1@individual.net> <1111607633.301232.62490@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1111628011.160315.134740@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1111794348.874993.298340@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.64.130.76 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1111827760 23273 127.0.0.1 (26 Mar 2005 09:02:40 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 09:02:40 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com; posting-host=68.64.130.76; posting-account=mZiOqwwAAAC5YZsJDHJLeReHGPXV5ENp Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:10020 comp.lang.c++:47324 comp.realtime:1739 comp.software-eng:5355 Date: 2005-03-26T01:02:35-08:00 List-Id: jayessay wrote: [ ... ] > > I very specifcally said they were not in a preprocessor, and merely > > that they provide capabilities similar to those available in the > > preprocessor in C++. > > And this is just _completely_ untrue. Not even close. I see. So what is it that (you incorrectly believe) the C preprocessor can do that a Lisp macro can't do? > Lisp coming into the conversation here is just a _bad_ thing to do. > Not because you are wrong about "preprocessors" being unusual (you're > right - they aren't.), but because you "equate" (in any sense) Lisp > macros as being a "preprocessor". I never made such an "equation" -- if you saw such a thing in what I said, it's entirely your own delusion. [ ... ] > > As usual, I disagree -- and I also use Lisp part of the time, and > > have not only used Smalltalk, but written a fairly substantial part > > of a Smalltalk implementation. > > Then you don't really understand the fundamental aspect of Lisp. I wish I was still sufficiently young and inexperienced to draw such solid conclusions based on such a complete lack of evidence or knowledge. -- Later, Jerry. The universe is a figment of its own imagination.