From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Jerry Coffin" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: 24 Mar 2005 10:57:29 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1111690649.800434.90720@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1110032222.447846.167060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <3SjWd.103128$Vf.3969241@news000.worldonline.dk> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <1110052142.832650@athnrd02> <1110284070.410136.205090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <1110288473.850146@athnrd02> <1110326720.837893@athnrd02> <9lK%d.186$FN4.48@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.236.235.120 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1111690657 13494 127.0.0.1 (24 Mar 2005 18:57:37 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2005 18:57:37 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=165.236.235.120; posting-account=mZiOqwwAAAC5YZsJDHJLeReHGPXV5ENp Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9926 comp.lang.c++:47110 comp.realtime:1689 comp.software-eng:5300 Date: 2005-03-24T10:57:29-08:00 List-Id: adaworks@sbcglobal.net wrote: [ ...] > C++ continues to evolve, but much of that evolution seems to follow a > course of shoring up things already in the language that don't quite > work as one might prefer, or adding a truss here and a buttress there > to prevent or enable deficiencies in the language; e.g., cast-away > const, a truly silly addition to the language. IMO, this is _quite_ an inaccurate characterization. C++ has changed exactly once since it was originally standardized. I do not believe that _any_ of what was changed was to change behavior at all -- rather, it was almost entirely changes in the standard to make the wording more accurately reflect what was desired all along. The most visible change was in the requirements for std::vector. The original C++ standard never _quite_ requires that std::vector use contiguous storage. That has now been changed so its storage must be contiguous. TTBOMK, nobody has ever implemented (or even designed) a version of std::vector that didn't use contiguous storage. I'm not sure anybody has really even proven that a version using non-contiguous storage could even meet the standard's requirements for std::vector. It's pretty clear from reading books written by committee members that most (if not all) thought from the beginning of std::vector as using contiguous storage. IMO, your characterization bears no more than an extremely distant relationship with reality. -- Later, Jerry. The universe is a figment of its own imagination.