From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: "Jerry Coffin" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: 17 Mar 2005 10:44:20 -0800 Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <1111085060.475613.176310@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> References: <1110332933.587110.260410@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1110390097.532139.43430@f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com> <422f3808$0$30165$ba620e4c@news.skynet.be> <1110409958.685759.249420@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <15SdnYvJ0_x3Vq3fRVn-3Q@megapath.net> <1110522060.091940.178510@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1110556346.841594.212520@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <4952804.Myubg7stsI@linux1.krischik.com> <1110739276.774946.103020@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1110858931.523773.124170@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <1110895220.422372.189820@l41g2000cwc.googlegroups.com> <1111015648.669832.140620@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 165.236.235.120 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" X-Trace: posting.google.com 1111085064 1173 127.0.0.1 (17 Mar 2005 18:44:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 17 Mar 2005 18:44:24 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: G2/0.2 Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=165.236.235.120; posting-account=mZiOqwwAAAC5YZsJDHJLeReHGPXV5ENp Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9553 comp.lang.c++:46173 comp.realtime:1553 comp.software-eng:5137 Date: 2005-03-17T10:44:20-08:00 List-Id: Randy Brukardt wrote: [ ... ] > The reason Jerry comes to this conclusion is based on a single > summary statement from a 5 year-old summary article; First of all, I came to no solid conclusions. Second, there was far more reasoning behind what I said than you admit here. Fortunately, anybody who wishes to do so can easily go back and read about the federal register -- wihch is available for searching by essentially anybody who wishes to do so. If your statements are really true, why don't you quit trying to put words in my mouth and simply show the proof? [ ... ] > Moreover, he > seems to claim reasons for this conclusion that are clearly stated > in the article (at least I hope they're clear; I'm not that great a > writer...). Except for the part about your (lack of) writing ability, I have no idea what this sentence is even attempting to say. Commenting on your own writing ability would _seem_ to imply that you're discussing the writing on your web site, though. If that's the case, I have to wonder about the logic involved -- it _sounds_ more or less as if you may be attempting to offer your own statements on your own web site as providing "proof" of the statements you've made here! > I'm always amazed at the lengths that some opponents of Ada will go > in order to discredit any advantage of the language. Is this because > they feel threatened by the language? (I can't imagine why.) Or they > have a deep seated hatred of things that start with 'A'? I don't' > know. This has nothing to do with discrediting the language. Consider, for example, buying ICs. I can not only find not only who made the ICs, but exactly which fabrication facility they were made at. I can find ISO 900x certification(s) on that facility, and I can find out who did that certification. I can find who they use as a failure analysis lab, whether they're ISO 900x certified, and if so who certified THEM. In short, I don't simply depend on their own claims -- I can find a chain of documentation that leads to people they hope I trust. The question is the degree to which that situation holds here. Thus far, you've provided essentially nothing in the way of independent corroboration of any of your statements at all. You make a statement here, and then offer your own statement on your own web site as the "corroborating evidence." > You can't please > (or even reason with) all of the people all of the time. At least in this thread, you don't seem to have even attempted to _reason_ with anybody at all. You've made unsupported claims, and when perfectly legitimate concerns are raised, you've resorted to suggesting that they result from fear and/or irrational hatred. -- Later, Jerry. The universe is a figment of its own imagination.