From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsread.com!news-xfer.newsread.com!newspeer.monmouth.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!tsicnews.teliasonera.com!news.otenet.gr!news.grnet.gr!newsfd02.forthnet.gr!not-for-mail From: Ioannis Vranos Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++ Subject: Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 15:44:18 +0200 Organization: FORTHnet S.A., Atthidon 4, GR-17671 Kalithea, Greece, Tel: +30 2109559000, Fax: +30 2109559333, url: http://www.forthnet.gr Message-ID: <1110462272.592958@athnrd02> References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1110032222.447846.167060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <3SjWd.103128$Vf.3969241@news000.worldonline.dk> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <1110052142.832650@athnrd02> <1110284070.410136.205090@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com> <395uqaF5rhu2mU1@individual.net> <1110377260.350158.58730@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com> <422f0c08$1_1@baen1673807.greenlnk.net> <1110421853.766292@athnrd02> <4%PXd.358789$w62.304065@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> <1110429670.232319@athnrd02> <1110447646.716725@athnrd02> <4230212c$0$26538$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <1110451882.739920@athnrd02> <423037a9$0$26552$9b4e6d93@newsread4.arcor-online.net> <1110457103.995140@athnrd02> <423047d9$0$1110$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: athnrd02.forthnet.gr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: athprx02.forthnet.gr 1110462272 9303 193.92.150.73 (10 Mar 2005 13:44:32 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@forthnet.gr NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:44:32 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <423047d9$0$1110$9b4e6d93@newsread2.arcor-online.net> Cache-Post-Path: newsfd02!unknown@ppp16-adsl-170.ath.forthnet.gr Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:9039 comp.lang.c++:44963 Date: 2005-03-10T15:44:18+02:00 List-Id: Georg Bauhaus wrote: > I'm mentioning it as an advantage, in spite of the time that the > translation tool chain needs to execute the template metaprograms, > and in spite of the not so helpful error messages you get, currently. > > It is interesting though that programmers are fond of the new > programming language called templates. It is a paradigm. Given that most languages support only one paradigm (and many times *not* well - e.g. Java and OO paradigm, no complete multiple inheritance support), one may tend to describe templates as a "language" of its own, but it is one the four paradigms supported *well* (=completely) by C++. > A clever trick to achieve > cognitive consonance that lets people maintain both the view that > C++ is great (because of templates) and that C++ should be avoided > (because of the low level parts). It is better to say that C++ is *both* a high level and a low level language, and unless one can't do otherwise, he should stick with the high level part of it. -- Ioannis Vranos http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys