From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 109fba,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: 115aec,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Thread: f43e6,703c4f68db81387d X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,gid109fba,gid115aec,gidf43e6,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news1.google.com!proxad.net!newsfeed.stueberl.de!feed.news.tiscali.de!news.belwue.de!news.tu-darmstadt.de!tsicnews.teliasonera.com!news.otenet.gr!news.grnet.gr!newsfd02.forthnet.gr!not-for-mail From: Ioannis Vranos Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.c++,comp.realtime,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: [OT] Re: Teaching new tricks to an old dog (C++ -->Ada) Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 01:40:39 +0200 Organization: FORTHnet S.A., Atthidon 4, GR-17671 Kalithea, Greece, Tel: +30 2109559000, Fax: +30 2109559333, url: http://www.forthnet.gr Message-ID: <1110325250.107314@athnrd02> References: <4229bad9$0$1019$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au> <1110032222.447846.167060@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <871xau9nlh.fsf@insalien.org> <3SjWd.103128$Vf.3969241@news000.worldonline.dk> <87r7iu85lf.fsf@insalien.org> <87is4598pm.fsf@insalien.org> <1110054476.533590@athnrd02> <1110059861.560004@athnrd02> <422DBE8A.6010502@sei.cmu.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: athnrd02.forthnet.gr Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: athprx02.forthnet.gr 1110325250 1828 193.92.150.73 (8 Mar 2005 23:40:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@forthnet.gr NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 8 Mar 2005 23:40:50 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0 (Windows/20041206) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en In-Reply-To: <422DBE8A.6010502@sei.cmu.edu> Cache-Post-Path: newsfd02!unknown@ppp10-adsl-11.ath.forthnet.gr Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:8894 comp.lang.c++:44671 comp.realtime:1089 comp.software-eng:4645 Date: 2005-03-09T01:40:39+02:00 List-Id: John Hudak wrote: > What????????????????????????????????????????????????? Assembly language? > powerful? If you decide to write a X GUI interface in assembly, I'll > check in on you in 20 years to see how your doing.... Higher level > languages handle broader abstract concepts better than low level > languages. Assembly is great if you are optimizing device drivers or > banging bits at the hardware register level...not good at implementing > scientific algorithms, GUIs, databases, etc. There are thousands of > reasearch papers that extol the problems of assembly language approach > to things, and yes, there are places and reasons to use it, but > classifying it as a 'higher level language' and something more powerful > is incorrect.... Actually I think if you use the platform's APIs it is taking much less. For example I think one may use Win32 API with assembly. Also the assembly that I have primarily in mind is the one of .NET. .NET is a CLI VM and here is a book about .NET's (CLI) VM assembly language: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0735615470/qid=1091414100/sr=1-7/ref=sr_1_7/102-2992266-3703320?v=glance&s=books CLI assembly language is defined in the freely available CLI standard, so you can view in the specification how it looks like: http://www.ecma-international.org/publications/standards/Ecma-335.htm -- Ioannis Vranos http://www23.brinkster.com/noicys