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From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Subject: Re: New Ada portable GUI Library?
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On Sun, 13 Jan 2008 02:25:29 -0800 (PST), Tomek Walkuski wrote:

> On 13 Sty, 11:06, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail...@dmitry-kazakov.de>
> wrote:
>> The only goal of a *true* Ada GUI library, IMO, could be a library which
>> would have a chance to become a part of the Ada Standard Library. So Gtk is
>> just non-starter here. We cannot depend on third-party libraries.
>>
> So, Dimitry, you are proposing "Swing approach". I'm talking about
> "look and feel" issue, because it is important to many people.

Actually this is an independent issue. Nothing prevents us from inheriting
the look-and-feel of the target platform. The look-and-feel should/could
propagate up the layers, provided the design supports look-and-feel
management. IMO it should.

However, weighting look-and-feel and an ability to have a standard library,
I would say that I am ready to sacrifice look-and-feel. After all the
"look-and-feel" of tasking, I/O etc is not one of UNIX or Windows. I would
not shed tears about that. Further, for good or bad, there is not that many
differences as it was before. Today Linux tries to mimic Windows.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de