From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,5db2a4f776607ef6 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.68.74.201 with SMTP id w9mr11715791pbv.0.1332519339989; Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:15:39 -0700 (PDT) Path: kz5ni24801pbc.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!er9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: KK6GM Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada advocacy Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 09:13:48 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <10f061e5-97c8-4194-aec7-116b0680f946@er9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com> References: <19595886.4450.1332248078686.JavaMail.geo-discussion-forums@vbbfy7> NNTP-Posting-Host: 12.35.64.226 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1332519339 7649 127.0.0.1 (23 Mar 2012 16:15:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 23 Mar 2012 16:15:39 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: er9g2000vbb.googlegroups.com; posting-host=12.35.64.226; posting-account=qZVz2QoAAAAN9WxYp-9jYb7jORc4Zqwt User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-Via: 1.1 barracudaweb.tritool.rancho:8080 (http_scan/4.0.2.6.19) X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.0.04506.30; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; MDDR; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E; InfoPath.1; BRI/2),gzip(gfe) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-03-23T09:13:48-07:00 List-Id: On Mar 20, 5:54=A0am, tonyg wrote: > I am currently fending off an attempt to have my project converted from A= DA to some un named monstrosity of a language. Reasons listed are ADA is ar= chaic, programmers can not be found, it takes too long to develop blah blah= list goes on. Anyone got any glossy monosyllabillic advocacy documents hop= efully in an entertaining cartoon format? A late reply, but I'd focus on two things. For management, I'd focus on SAVING MONEY! Ada programs should field faster and require less maintenence cost. Any manager who doesn't want to offer a better product at a lower cost is a fool, or at least a problem for the company. For the programmers, I'd focus on the professionalism of (a) being able to become fluent in new (to them) languages, and (b) using a language that is demonstrably better than the language(s) they are now using. The latter point also applies to the "problem" of finding new programmers. Any programmer who is looking for employment in a field in which Ada is a suitable language choice, who won't or can't learn Ada, is either incompetent (afraid he can't learn a new language), or a prima dona (refuses to learn a new language), or myopic (incapable of seeing that exposure to Ada will make him a generally better programmer). In short, a programmer that you perhaps wouldn't want in the first place. Yes, these are all blanket statements that require modifying ifs, ands and buts. But I think the facts support them. So it's up to you to marshal those facts and form your arguments. In summary, your job is to round up data to convince them that they're brilliant if they continue to use Ada (and rewards will follow), and idiots if they don't (and bad things will follow). :)