From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on ip-172-31-91-241.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=none autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: In precision typing we trust Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2025 10:56:08 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <10912n9$34d8f$1@dont-email.me> References: <107uv9g$3019a$1@dont-email.me> <107v1ji$303of$1@dont-email.me> <336fbb5f-a279-ea8e-67fd-f62bb00d6a89@irrt.De> <107vfb9$34cpj$1@dont-email.me> <10855lq$gj8l$1@dont-email.me> <1088h1a$19635$1@dont-email.me> <1089p1i$1ig1d$1@dont-email.me> <108aq2p$1qo9o$1@dont-email.me> <108dh2l$2f5h3$1@dont-email.me> <108ej11$2mbr8$1@dont-email.me> <108g1fv$32gqg$3@dont-email.me> <108h6b7$3a75k$3@dont-email.me> <108ijfj$3lihe$4@dont-email.me> <108jqcg$3ti12$2@dont-email.me> <87cy8im3kc.fsf@nightsong.com> <108kp8k$5pr0$1@dont-email.me> <878qj5my4l.fsf@nightsong.com> <108mde1$gv59$2@dont-email.me> <108o3ke$vok4$8@dont-email.me> <108p54d$16qn1$4@dont-email.me> <108r8eq$1osg9$5@dont-email.me> <108rma6$1rkon$1@dont-email.me> <108vu0t$2sngv$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Sun, 31 Aug 2025 08:56:09 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="15ca0f2de6af3f69767d32890f410388"; logging-data="3290383"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/tS0ZppVu3f5kIFlCb2DQn5JmEYL/C/uE=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:9xRGQBi98h2bfbAfBw8OerWOHmE= Content-Language: en-US In-Reply-To: <108vu0t$2sngv$4@dont-email.me> Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:67008 List-Id: On 2025-08-31 00:29, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Fri, 29 Aug 2025 09:53:42 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >> On 2025-08-29 05:57, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: >> >>> But the bug might be at the other end of a comms connection in somebody >>> else’s code, not at my end. >> >> That is not an error in your code. > > You were the one saying “errors are bugs”. Not changing your mind now, are > you? Are you aware that there may exist more than one program? (:-)) >> You confuse errors with exceptional states. > > Exceptions are a great way to handle a lot of error cases. Bugs are handled by text editor. Exceptions are a program control flow mechanism. >> No program can check correctness of itself. > > Not sure what this is supposed to be relevant to, but surely a language as > heavily used in safety-critical applications as Ada would typically see a > lot of cross-checking happening in real-world programs. None of which is a correctness check. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de