From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on ip-172-31-91-241.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=none autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: In precision typing we trust Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 10:15:56 +0200 Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <108rnjs$1rkon$3@dont-email.me> References: <107uv9g$3019a$1@dont-email.me> <107v1ji$303of$1@dont-email.me> <336fbb5f-a279-ea8e-67fd-f62bb00d6a89@irrt.De> <107vfb9$34cpj$1@dont-email.me> <10855lq$gj8l$1@dont-email.me> <1088h1a$19635$1@dont-email.me> <1089p1i$1ig1d$1@dont-email.me> <108aq2p$1qo9o$1@dont-email.me> <108b1r3$1sj3c$1@dont-email.me> <108dh4t$2f5h3$2@dont-email.me> <108dkik$2g20p$1@dont-email.me> <108g1cg$32gqg$2@dont-email.me> <108h6b0$3a75k$2@dont-email.me> <108iiq5$3lihe$3@dont-email.me> <108mhhk$j2jt$1@dont-email.me> <108mis1$j4cj$1@dont-email.me> <108o33p$vok4$5@dont-email.me> <108o6rp$10njb$1@dont-email.me> <108o7cm$10qct$1@dont-email.me> <108o845$10pj9$3@dont-email.me> <108p65h$17vk1$1@dont-email.me> <108p8bi$16qn1$6@dont-email.me> <108r89p$1osg9$4@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 29 Aug 2025 08:15:57 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="2875a737d4341ace9c98c50ea5ed6746"; logging-data="1954583"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1/YK4WKe6ay9RHxO+GnGF3cy8QOyh5GxgQ=" User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird Cancel-Lock: sha1:MwpOsPvMcfq3BioC4yDT97WBA24= In-Reply-To: <108r89p$1osg9$4@dont-email.me> Content-Language: en-US Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:66988 List-Id: On 2025-08-29 05:54, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote: > On Thu, 28 Aug 2025 11:43:15 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote: > >> In Python everything is untyped even when type annotations are used. > > Python 3.13.7 (main, Aug 20 2025, 22:17:40) [GCC 14.3.0] on linux > Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information. > >>> 2 + "2" > Traceback (most recent call last): > File "", line 1, in > 2 + "2" > ~~^~~~~ > TypeError: unsupported operand type(s) for +: 'int' and 'str' "+" is implemented to raise an exception named TypeError. So? How is that a type check? How do I know if that happens without executing "+"? It is just untyped as no types of "+" are specified anywhere. It is an undefined behavior, because nobody knows a-priory if "+" would return and which type or bomb the program. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de