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Subject: Re: In precision typing we trust
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On 2025-08-25 23:13, Lawrence D’Oliveiro wrote:
> On Mon, 25 Aug 2025 22:09:14 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> 
>> The question remains why should I need to instantiate it beyond
>> declaring an object of?
> 
> Because in Python a class, like all objects, is created at runtime, not
> compile time.

You mean type objects:

https://docs.python.org/3/c-api/type.html

so what?

> Think of a class definition, like a function definition, as just a special
> form of assignment statement.

Both are not.

> It’s not a declaration: every time it is
> executed (“elaborated” if you prefer the Ada term), it creates a new
> object.

Definition /= declaration. Executing definition creates an object, just 
like in any language.

You still did not explain what the buzz. If "metaclass" is merely a 
definition then OK. Nothing new, nothing interesting.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de