From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 4.0.1 (2024-03-25) on ip-172-31-91-241.ec2.internal X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.0 required=3.0 tests=none autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=4.0.1 Path: nntp.eternal-september.org!eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Kevin Chadwick Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: In precision typing we trust Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 12:49:54 -0000 (UTC) Organization: A noiseless patient Spider Message-ID: <1089p1i$1ig1d$1@dont-email.me> References: <107uv9g$3019a$1@dont-email.me> <107v1ji$303of$1@dont-email.me> <336fbb5f-a279-ea8e-67fd-f62bb00d6a89@irrt.De> <107vfb9$34cpj$1@dont-email.me> <10855lq$gj8l$1@dont-email.me> <1088h1a$19635$1@dont-email.me> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Injection-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2025 12:49:54 +0000 (UTC) Injection-Info: dont-email.me; posting-host="ed8dbbaaabade82add45afa8e0d2ebfc"; logging-data="1654829"; mail-complaints-to="abuse@eternal-september.org"; posting-account="U2FsdGVkX1+dr0+zaGkoN5JnTFoq5C8EkNOpuyZjfK8=" User-Agent: PhoNews/3.13.3 (Android/14) Cancel-Lock: sha1:9sEAPgLISIVIgz+UXPaMoawy4NE= In-Reply-To: <1088h1a$19635$1@dont-email.me> Xref: feeder.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:66900 List-Id: > >It is with increasing frequency that video presentations, or plain-old >written articles are making these assertions about OOP, and it's origins, >and obvious problems in the context of C++. They all ignore Ada, and the >Lisps, and their contributions, and their sound design in the context of >OOP. The ignorance of Ada is frustrating but certainly a lot of the newer languages are avoiding atleast inheritance (Go, Rust, Odin and Zig). Personally I have only used any OOP features in Dart and Ada. In Dart I hate the seemingly excessive boiler plate. In Ada I rarely use tagged types as they are incompatible with sized record representation which I love (perhaps that has changed recently but I don't think so). I therefore know little about OOP and I haven't liked inheritance when I have used it. I also actually found myself disagreeing with Grady Booch objects are a better way diagrams in his Ada books to be honest though. So the point about OOP being incompatible with systems thinking might stand. -- Regards, Kc