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On Wed, 20 Aug 2025 18:54:50 +0000, Kevin Chadwick wrote:


>>Some people called Ada 83 an "object-based" language, perhaps because
>>Ada programs typically modelled the real application objects (as
>>abstract data types) even before tagged types were available.
>>
>>
> This guy researched the origins of OOP with a focus on C++ apparently
>  botching it up. I'm not sure how interesting anyone might find it to
>  be.
> 
> "https://youtu.be/wo84LFzx5nI"

It is with increasing frequency that video presentations, or plain-old 
written articles are making these assertions about OOP, and it's origins, 
and obvious problems in the context of C++. They all ignore Ada, and the 
Lisps, and their contributions, and their sound design in the context of 
OOP. This is a deliberate, disingenuous attack on the viewer's intellect, 
it is an extremely low quality of pedagogy, the only aim of which, is to 
increase the author's social capital.

Casey's presentation is part of a longer history of their critique on C++ 
"OOP" (and good on them, because C++ is a stain on the construction of 
computer science), unfortunately, Casey and the rest stopped being 
humorous years ago, and their over-confident conviction, based on a fad to 
reject critical thinking, and substituting history with their own "modes 
of truth", or their "play on words, and meaning" now become insufferable 
to observe (mostly because of their emphasis on rhetoric, over reason and 
logic, draw too many parallels with conservatism, bordering on proto-
fascism)—the post-modern condition, what an absurd load of shit the world 
now produces.

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