From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,5cb36983754f64da X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-06 12:18:19 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-01!sn-post-02!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: No call for Ada (was Re: Announcing newscripting/prototypinglanguage) Date: Tue, 6 Apr 2004 14:17:05 -0500 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Message-ID: <10760hq4hahaa25@corp.supernews.com> References: <20040206174017.7E84F4C4114@lovelace.ada-france.org><54759e7e.0402071124.322ea376@posting.google.com><406EB6D2.8030801@noplace.com><87d66pyw1g.fsf@insalien.org><406EEC35.7040109@noplace.com><874qs0zvy1.fsf@insalien.org><40714C98.90601@noplace.com><1073gv22t969q5a@corp.supernews.com><40729B9D.30906@noplace.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.50.4807.1700 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4910.0300 X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:6780 Date: 2004-04-06T14:17:05-05:00 List-Id: "Marius Amado Alves" wrote in message news:mailman.193.1081267703.327.comp.lang.ada@ada-france.org... > > You can't really mean that, can you? Luck is the only thing that makes > > anybody or anything successful?... > > I too was suprised by Randy's extreme pessimism. I'm sure he was > hiperbolizing and not giving up on writing good software :-) I'm not giving up on writing good software, but I have little hope that anyone else will. Remember, I was involved during the first PC boom and bust. I saw a lot of companies with good, solid products (including us) get run over by companies with flashy marketing and barely functional products. What were they doing better? It wasn't giving the customer anything real, but rather giving them the *illusion* of some benefit. That's what sells Java, Visual Basic, etc. today. And to compete with that flashy marketing, Ada would need several tens of millions of dollars. That's not going to happen. Moreover, there doesn't seem to be anything resembling a contender to replace Ada with an appropriate budget. So good software is doomed. Randy.