From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,52a0bacbcdd2da17 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-08-13 12:03:52 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!bloom-beacon.mit.edu!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!priapus.visi.com!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!ash.uu.net!spool.news.uu.net!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 15:03:51 -0400 From: Hyman Rosen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030611 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Realtime/embedded project to help with employment. References: <3F367B39.8060108@noplace.com> <1060611604.45048@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3F38DEBC.8040208@noplace.com> <3F3A39E6.1070803@noplace.com> In-Reply-To: <3F3A39E6.1070803@noplace.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: KBC Financial Products Message-ID: <1060801431.92531@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Cache-Post-Path: master.nyc.kbcfp.com!unknown@nightcrawler.nyc.kbcfp.com X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.253.250.10 X-Trace: 1060801431 20896 204.253.250.10 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:41408 Date: 2003-08-13T15:03:51-04:00 List-Id: Marin David Condic wrote: > I write software for a living. That's how I pay the bills. > I trade my labor in exchange for fungible assets and everyone wins. > Hence, I have a tendency to not want to work for free so > that some other party can make money from my labor. But how much of GPLed code was actually written for free? A lot of it was written under grants, or in universities, or under government contracts. I would guess that most GPLed code was written by people who were being paid in some fashion for the work they were doing. One obvious example is that Linus Torvalds himself was working on Linux while being employed by TransMeta. Another is the set of contributions that IBM has made to Linux. So IBM makes money, RedHat makes money, ACT makes money, Zope makes money. They all employ programmers who are making money working on free software.