From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f039470e8f537101 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-07-23 14:35:32 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!nntp.abs.net!ash.uu.net!spool.news.uu.net!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 17:35:31 -0400 From: Hyman Rosen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030611 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ariane5 FAQ References: <1058810510.375902@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1058813341.841940@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1058816605.566685@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1058969472.350716@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <20619edc.0307231233.24f27e91@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: <20619edc.0307231233.24f27e91@posting.google.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: KBC Financial Products Message-ID: <1058996131.223000@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Cache-Post-Path: master.nyc.kbcfp.com!unknown@nightcrawler.nyc.kbcfp.com X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.253.250.10 X-Trace: 1058996131 26823 204.253.250.10 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:40729 Date: 2003-07-23T17:35:31-04:00 List-Id: Mike Silva wrote: > So you are arguing that, lacking written documentation to the > contrary, any piece of code should be assumed capable of handling all > possible input values in a way that is appropriate to all possible > systems in which the code is employed. Tell me, honestly, would you > fly in a rocket designed under such assumptions? But we're not talking about "any-all". This was a combined hardware and software module being moved from one rocket version to the next. > the Ariane-5 people had no legitimate reason to assume that what > the code did would also be right in the Ariane-5 system. And yet they acted that way. That argues that they did have a legitimate reason. Even though it turned out to be wrong in retrospect. As I keep saying, there is a difference between "no reason to assume it will work" and "reasons why it will not work".