From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,f948976d12c7ee33 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-06-27 12:00:28 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!nntp.cs.ubc.ca!nntp-relay.ihug.net!ihug.co.nz!uunet!hkg.uu.net!lax.uu.net!sac.uu.net!ash.uu.net!spool.news.uu.net!not-for-mail Date: Fri, 27 Jun 2003 15:00:03 -0400 From: Hyman Rosen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.5a) Gecko/20030611 Thunderbird/0.1a X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Boeing and Dreamliner References: <3EFC6FC2.B96DAEA4@adaworks.com> <1056731513.272294@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <3EFC881A.3060406@attbi.com> In-Reply-To: <3EFC881A.3060406@attbi.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: KBC Financial Products Message-ID: <1056740404.324199@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Cache-Post-Path: master.nyc.kbcfp.com!unknown@nightcrawler.nyc.kbcfp.com X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.253.250.10 X-Trace: 1056740405 29284 204.253.250.10 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:39847 Date: 2003-06-27T15:00:03-04:00 List-Id: Robert I. Eachus wrote: > Were you involved in the actual decision? > Do you know something that we don't? That's what the report says. "No reference to justification of this decision was found directly in the source code. Given the large amount of documentation associated with any industrial application, the assumption, although agreed, was essentially obscured, though not deliberately, from any external review." > I find it hard to keep from laughing at someone documenting this as a > "limitation" of the Ariane 4 code: "Caution moving Ariane 4 more than 3 > kilometers during gyroscope alignment may have serious consequences." There was an unprotected conversion in the code, with nothing to explain why it was unprotected. The review team seems to think that this is a problem. It's their conclusion, not mine. > The details were all well documented. Including the Ariane 4 > REQUIREMENT for the alignment software to run for 40 seconds after > launch, and why it was required. This requirement did not apply to the > Ariane 5, and anyone looking at the Ariane 4 documentation would see > potential serious consequences associated with not fixing this > requirements. Well, apparently not. In any case, leaving the alignment function on triggered the problem, but the actual problem was the shortcut in the code and the lack of warning for when that code would be invalid.