From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f43e6,899fc98b2883af4a X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: fdb77,5f529c91be2ac930 X-Google-Attributes: gidfdb77,public X-Google-Thread: 11232c,59ec73856b699922 X-Google-Attributes: gid11232c,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,583275b6950bf4e6 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-05-14 09:50:59 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!feed2.news.rcn.net!rcn!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!uunet!ash.uu.net!spool0900.news.uu.net!reader0902.news.uu.net!not-for-mail Date: Wed, 14 May 2003 12:50:42 -0400 From: Hyman Rosen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4b) Gecko/20030507 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.java.advocacy,comp.object,comp.lang.ada,misc.misc,comp.software-eng Subject: Re: Quality systems (Was: Using Ada for device drivers? (Was: the Ada mandate, and why it collapsed and died)) References: <9fa75d42.0304230424.10612b1a@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305011727.5eae0222@posting.google.com> <17cd177c.0305072114.24f04783@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305090612.261d5a5c@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305091549.48b9c5d9@posting.google.com> <7507f79d.0305121629.5b8b7369@posting.google.com> <9fa75d42.0305130543.60381450@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: KBC Financial Products Message-ID: <1052931043.822632@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Cache-Post-Path: master.nyc.kbcfp.com!unknown@fixedcost.nyc.kbcfp.com X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.253.250.10 X-Trace: 1052931044 reader2.ash.ops.us.uu.net 10330 204.253.250.10 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.java.advocacy:63784 comp.object:63389 comp.lang.ada:37327 misc.misc:14162 comp.software-eng:19181 Date: 2003-05-14T12:50:42-04:00 List-Id: Preben Randhol wrote: > What I am wondering is why do C or C++ programmers need so many tools to > check their code The tool that checks my C++ code is my compiler. I do have to work with third-party libraries, so occasionally I use Purify when a mystery erupts. > If there was a debugger-free day Debuggers are useful to stop a program in mid-execution and then prowl around in its innards to get a snapshot of current state. When the program in question is responding to external events and messages, and also does not seem to be behaving as expected, the debugger can give you insight as to what's going on. This doesn't mean that I'm using the debugger to track down buffer overruns or those other Ada-checked things.