From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,2d9aad84ea395c96 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-03-18 07:49:52 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.ems.psu.edu!news.litech.org!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.visi.com!petbe.visi.com!uunet!ash.uu.net!spool0900.news.uu.net!reader0902.news.uu.net!not-for-mail Date: Tue, 18 Mar 2003 10:49:43 -0500 From: Hyman Rosen User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.4a) Gecko/20030313 X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: non military license for ada References: <6a90b886.0303140243.7908f923@posting.google.com> <1047676770.614608@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <6a90b886.0303170020.5e230ea5@posting.google.com> <1047919117.217610@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <6a90b886.0303171644.20164b4d@posting.google.com> <6a90b886.0303180253.7349aa01@posting.google.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Organization: KBC Financial Products Message-ID: <1048002583.348518@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Cache-Post-Path: master.nyc.kbcfp.com!unknown@nightcrawler.nyc.kbcfp.com X-Cache: nntpcache 3.0.1 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.253.250.10 X-Trace: 1048002584 reader2.ash.ops.us.uu.net 7231 204.253.250.10 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:35462 Date: 2003-03-18T10:49:43-05:00 List-Id: Preben Randhol wrote: > Sadly it is so. Bush is talking about "fight for our Freedom", but he > passes laws to restict it. Is it only me that sees the paradox here? It sounds like the law is to let investigations go forward more easily. It's not preventing you from reading whatever you want to, but it may make it easier for the government to find out what you read. I've said before that I favor no limits on what information may be gathered from public sources. Since public libraries are explicitly government- run agencies, I find it even more absurd that they should be forbidden from sharing information with the rest of the government. > CNN is censoring Or perhaps just editing. > Independant reporters are threatened that satelite > uplinks will be fire upon This is claimed by one BBC correspondent. I assume that the Pentagon intends to target any detected communications sources that it doesn't know about. If that happens to be a freelance reporter in the middle of a war zone, well, as she said, they've been warned. > http://www.wired.com/news/conflict/0,2100,58043,00.html? OK, this is a reporter who intends to go to northern Iraq. Cool. > http://www.gulufuture.com/news/kate_adie030310.htm This is the bombing story above. OK. How is the Pentagon supposed to distinguish between Iraqi C^3 and stray reporters? > http://www.thememoryhole.org/ The war pictures? It rather reminds me of the anti-choice people who like to show pictures of aborted fetuses. Yes, I already knew that war kills and maims. So do planes flown into buildings. The anti-war people are fond of saying that it's dangerous to attack Iraq because it will invite more incidents of terrorism against us. On the contrary, attacking Iraq will demonstrate to nations so inclined that if they do not restrain their support of movements which wish to attack Americans and their interests, they might find themselves on the receiving end next. I rather like the image of the US as a maniacal junkyard dog that you do well not to provoke. > I'm sad for the thousands of civilians who will be killed. So am I, to the extent that those civilians do not support the actions of their government. Unfortunately, if we decided not to go to war for fear of killing civilians, then that would simply encourage enemies to surround their military infrastructure with civilians.