From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,5af5c381381ac5a7 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!npeer.de.kpn-eurorings.net!npeer-ng0.de.kpn-eurorings.net!newsfeed.arcor.de!newsspool3.arcor-online.net!news.arcor.de.POSTED!not-for-mail From: "Dmitry A. Kazakov" Subject: Re: Ada requires too much typing! Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada User-Agent: 40tude_Dialog/2.0.15.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Reply-To: mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de Organization: cbb software GmbH References: <03f84a0a-e070-43a9-9b68-920345f64f94@r27g2000yqb.googlegroups.com> <1c704c1e-1b2e-427f-ae0e-3b2a0f976c7c@y4g2000yqy.googlegroups.com> <14cxhfhcbdmaa$.gp6rbqu5865h.dlg@40tude.net> <457b9c75-1c94-4137-a823-2db342cb26d1@c10g2000yqi.googlegroups.com> <1bghlzj6b2s34.19id3bthuckg5$.dlg@40tude.net> <4c0facec$0$6991$9b4e6d93@newsspool4.arcor-online.net> Date: Wed, 9 Jun 2010 21:10:06 +0200 Message-ID: <101ot9m0ul54n$.6ktxh9d7h6td$.dlg@40tude.net> NNTP-Posting-Date: 09 Jun 2010 21:10:02 CEST NNTP-Posting-Host: f994c5fe.newsspool4.arcor-online.net X-Trace: DXC=]bBNgL`>8o]5TOT9_N5i^Y;@G\TUiemF>5ZFUF[ X-Complaints-To: usenet-abuse@arcor.de Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:12509 Date: 2010-06-09T21:10:02+02:00 List-Id: On Wed, 09 Jun 2010 20:00:07 +0200, Yannick Duch�ne (Hibou57) wrote: > Le Wed, 09 Jun 2010 17:53:44 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov > a �crit: >>> Maybe with the exception of generic formal packages? >>> (With other problems popping up elsewhere.) >> >> Close, but it is about compilation units, the abstraction of the contents >> remains outside the language. > So this should not be a compilation unit and this should be expressed in > the language. Do you think about something at the level of types ? Depends on the intentions. If you render it as a type, then it must be a class-wide one. This is the reason why I believe that generics are superfluous and could be gradually replaced by classes. This is also why I want more static analysis, because that would allow to remove any overhead in comparable [=static] cases. > I guess > this should be able to express a kind of structure, so: Canvas ? Patterns ? Depends on the meaning of these. Normally this stuff comes with dynamic typing, types inference, things I don't like to see in a language like Ada. -- Regards, Dmitry A. Kazakov http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de