From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,198c6302c4a0b0d7 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-12-18 12:24:48 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!nycmny1-snh1.gtei.net!news.gtei.net!news-out.visi.com!hermes.visi.com!uunet!ash.uu.net!spool0900.news.uu.net!reader0901.news.uu.net!not-for-mail From: "Hyman Rosen" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <3c1dc786@pull.gecm.com> <1008601517.470745@edh3> <1008626816.690418@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> <1008690461.380980@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Subject: Re: Ada / C++ comparison paper Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 15:25:01 -0500 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2600.0000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 Organization: KBC Financial Products Message-ID: <1008707086.229460@master.nyc.kbcfp.com> Cache-Post-Path: master.nyc.kbcfp.com!unknown@mosquito.nyc.kbcfp.com X-Cache: nntpcache 2.3.3 (see http://www.nntpcache.org/) NNTP-Posting-Host: 204.253.250.10 X-Trace: 1008707095 reader1.ash.ops.us.uu.net 18952 204.253.250.10 Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18070 Date: 2001-12-18T15:25:01-05:00 List-Id: "Brian Rogoff" wrote in message news:Pine.BSF.4.40.0112181924260.32168-100000@bpr.best.vwh.net... > I kind of agree with Hyman here. "Kind of", because I think that OO is > really overrated ... the convenience comes from the run time dispatching, > not so much from the incremental programming aspects. Sure. I was talking about the "critical benefit" of OOP when it's used, not suggesting that OOP should always be used. > In any case, I think Hyman is a bit oversensitive to some of the ignorant > C++ bashing in this n.g. ... Still, its an Ada newsgroup, and I wonder > how many times Hyman has complained about anti-Ada ignorance in > the C++ world... Not many times I'm afraid, because Ada is hardly ever mentioned in the C++ groups. For those who feel threatened, Ada doesn't represent the threat. I think that's reserved for Java and C#. I try to do my part on both sides. I have several times mentioned on the C++ groups that C++ should examine Ada's multitasking features when they finally bite the bullet and start thinking about how to standardize this in C++. I don't think I'm oversensitive. Ed's article really is a hatchet job. (By the way, I actually met him about fifteen years ago, when I was working for a compiler company.)