From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.5 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_05 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: f645d,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gidf645d,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public X-Google-Thread: fa0ae,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gidfa0ae,public X-Google-Thread: 10611e,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gid10611e,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 10a146,f7a7163813ae8672 X-Google-Attributes: gid10a146,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-11-07 19:06:45 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!sn-xit-02!sn-xit-04!supernews.com!news-xfer.siscom.net!news.netcologne.de!newsrouter.chello.at!newsfeed.Austria.EU.net!newsfeed.kpnqwest.at!anon.lcs.mit.edu!nym.alias.net!mail2news-x9!mail2news-x8!mail2news-x7!mail2news-x6!mail2news-x5!mail2news-x4!mail2news-x3!mail2news-x2!mail2news Date: Wed, 7 Nov 2001 21:06:37 -0600 From: jmburton@usenix.org (jmburton) Newsgroups: comp.lang.basic.visual,comp.lang.c++,comp.lang.java.programmer,comp.object,nyc.food,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.perl.misc,comp.object Organization: UseniX Subject: Re: Best language for low IQ programmers? Message-ID: <1005188797788841@usenix.org> Mail-To-News-Contact: postmaster@nym.alias.net Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.basic.visual:10734 comp.lang.c++:102573 comp.lang.java.programmer:108544 comp.object:24285 nyc.food:2040 comp.lang.eiffel:4855 comp.lang.ada:16032 comp.lang.perl.misc:77401 Date: 2001-11-07T21:06:37-06:00 List-Id: > C++ is the best choice for dull programmers. The quality of your code will > be indistinguishable from that of a the C++ guru. Are you a troll? In case if you are genuine, which I doubt, I disagree. Eiffel is a better language for dull programmers. Since Eiffel is usually abandoned before software goes into production, no one will ever have to deal with the inevitable bugs left by sloppy Eiffel programmers. Plus, poor performance due to bad algorithms designed by poorly educated programmers can be excused by the natural slowness of Eiffel (garbage collection instead of efficient on-demand memory allocation and deallocation). You have to know C++ anyway, as Eiffel is merely a front end to C++ (it is compiled into C++, not native code), and requires external calls to C++ for anything useful like OS services. I studied Eiffel in college and have a buddy who used to program in that sad pathetic language, so I do know what I am talking about. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - J M Burton FreeBSD Consulting & Security Administration * * * This is a .sig virus. Copy it into your .sig to propagate. * * *