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Subject: Re: AW: How come Ada isn't more popular?
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From: Markus E Leypold
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"Grein, Christoph (Fa. ESG)" <Christoph.Grein@eurocopter.com> writes:

> Von: comp.lang.ada-bounces@ada-france.org
> [mailto:comp.lang.ada-bounces@ada-france.org] Im Auftrag von Markus E
> Leypold
>
>>> The circumstances differed in this respect: The C students were given
>>> 60% of the teacher's solution. Initially, the Ada students were given
>>> 10% (or maybe less).
>
>> So it was not really a comparable situation. One might argue that
>> already given partial solutions demotivate and that they have dangers
>> of its own (often draw people on a wrong path of thinking). I've
>> actually seen people given a partial solution perfoming worse than
>> those who had to do without.
>
>> ... (I haven't even read the study yet), but ...
>
> You really should have looked before commenting... :-(

Yes, yes.

>
> Fact is: The students were not able to finish the job, so they were
> given more and more source. And even with 60%, they were still not able.

See my comment on the helpfullness of help in another articel. I've
only been trying to put forward a general point of view on the idea
that more help brings the students nearer to success in any case. 

Regards -- Markus