From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,e276c1ed16429c03 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder.news-service.com!216.196.110.146.MISMATCH!border3.nntp.ams.giganews.com!Xl.tags.giganews.com!border1.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local2.nntp.ams.giganews.com!nntp.bt.com!news.bt.com.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 01:14:39 -0500 From: Brian Drummond Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada is getting more popular! Date: Sat, 30 Oct 2010 07:23:54 +0100 Reply-To: brian@shapes.demon.co.uk Message-ID: <0kcnc61i572o4mval4nvjpa7gehbpbt0pv@4ax.com> References: <4cc87d7a$0$23755$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4cc912e1$0$23761$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <19rlit851kct1$.db26uwez2yg7$.dlg@40tude.net> <4cc94547$0$23752$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <4cc9bf12$0$23765$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <1dqjc61taitn9frnn558v27931q3v2puk9@4ax.com> <4cca5811$0$23763$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> <2lklc6pa8f0tub4dmg0abpuk29hrh1aubh@4ax.com> <4ccad418$0$23765$14726298@news.sunsite.dk> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.7/32.534 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Usenet-Provider: http://www.giganews.com X-AuthenticatedUsername: NoAuthUser X-Trace: sv3-ILPc//5OPh6RgovjelN/2x76hqtf4udSMuK+WQYXFTtuu+GTFNQUoO2UjadM+ky9VgC1zcMUl40J8Ti!V7S0Rj6l7vgRSqaCa0WRRRYlVy/XKh4JTb7WhYpz2yy+GWbXkfzPjqrb/zFwKnc12CFrgaz8i8tf!U/iM X-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@btinternet.com X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.40 X-Original-Bytes: 3116 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:15929 Date: 2010-10-30T07:23:54+01:00 List-Id: On Fri, 29 Oct 2010 16:03:03 +0200, Thomas L�cke wrote: >On 2010-10-29 16:04, Brian Drummond wrote: >> It's probably worth asking when you tried it. >> On the other hand, if your application needs to access special PCI hardware, you >> are probably still SOL. >That is the big stumbling block. I make heavy use of Intel dialogic >cards, and they've so far utterly refused to do anything when using >Wine. > >So yea, I'm SOL. Yeah. Asking Wine to support Windows device drivers under Linux is probably a bit much... and expecting it to translate Win I/O requests to Linux drivers, doubly so. When faced with closed source (an FPGA prototyping solution) I went through several virtualisation tools on Linux before I found one (KVM) that had recently learned how to virtualise PCI slots, and let me select which PCI and USB devices are passed through to the VM, and which are reserved to the host. There may be other virtualisation tools that can do so now, this was well over a year ago. (VirtualBox closed source could handle USB but not PCI, VB open source and Xen could handle neither. One of them gave me a nice BSOD with Linux happily running behind it!) It still meant I had to install Windows (2000 in my case) on the virtual machine. But at least KVM gave Windows a "vanilla" machine with no sharp corners to cut itself on. Probably not a Microsoft supported combination, though... It kept me going, but may not be a solution for mission-critical work. - Brian (apologies for getting so far off topic)