From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=unavailable autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Received: by 10.107.175.77 with SMTP id y74mr14501496ioe.31.1515624885006; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:54:45 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.157.81.209 with SMTP id d17mr561404oth.6.1515624884757; Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:54:44 -0800 (PST) Path: eternal-september.org!reader01.eternal-september.org!reader02.eternal-september.org!feeder.eternal-september.org!border1.nntp.ams1.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!peer03.ams1!peer.ams1.xlned.com!news.xlned.com!peer03.am4!peer.am4.highwinds-media.com!peer02.iad!feed-me.highwinds-media.com!news.highwinds-media.com!g80no111758itg.0!news-out.google.com!b73ni8302ita.0!nntp.google.com!g80no111755itg.0!postnews.google.com!glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 14:54:44 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: glegroupsg2000goo.googlegroups.com; posting-host=2601:645:c001:2a91:5861:92ad:232b:6b83; posting-account=fxr6CwoAAABjARAbZ01okNaxDpxQT8RH NNTP-Posting-Host: 2601:645:c001:2a91:5861:92ad:232b:6b83 References: User-Agent: G2/1.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Message-ID: <0f1048d2-187c-4578-ae7b-d209e229bfbe@googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: Simulating the rolling of dices to produce truly random numbers? From: Mace Ayres Injection-Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2018 22:54:45 +0000 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Received-Bytes: 1779 X-Received-Body-CRC: 2181741110 Xref: reader02.eternal-september.org comp.lang.ada:49863 Date: 2018-01-10T14:54:44-08:00 List-Id: On Wednesday, January 10, 2018 at 7:50:21 AM UTC-8, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote= : > Is it possible? Any existing algorithms or published papers? Are we assured that our human mind/intelligence can know if a number is tru= ly random, or if a algorithm will generate a true random number? If algorit= hmic, then deterministic? Is the idea of a truly random number an idea, but= not necessarily a number that can be proven to be random? How random is go= od enough? If I choose n among the set 1..500, based on my own sense of randomness, is= that random?