From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,TO_NO_BRKTS_FROM_MSSP autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,124905131f269735 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-09-26 06:58:40 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news-out.nuthinbutnews.com!propagator2-austin!propagator!feed2.newsfeeds.com!newsfeeds.com!newsranger.com!www.newsranger.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada From: Ted Dennison References: <1001442590.557811@news.drenet.dnd.ca> <3BB10E2C.8C57FFE1@linuxchip.demon.co.uk> Subject: The decline of programming civilization (was: gnat and heap size) Message-ID: <0als7.5831$ev2.9806@www.newsranger.com> X-Abuse-Info: When contacting newsranger.com regarding abuse please X-Abuse-Info: forward the entire news article including headers or X-Abuse-Info: else we will not be able to process your request X-Complaints-To: abuse@newsranger.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 09:58:20 EDT Organization: http://www.newsranger.com Date: Wed, 26 Sep 2001 13:58:20 GMT Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:13395 Date: 2001-09-26T13:58:20+00:00 List-Id: In article , Lutz Donnerhacke says... >No. Availability of huge amounts of computing and storage ressources are the >main reason for decreasing programmer and program designer skills resulting >in ever decreasing software quality. :-( I'm not entirely convinced that there are less smart programmers now than there used to be. If anything I see the opposite trend. There may be a lot more doufuses running around too, but that's just because there are so many more programmers in general than there used to be. I don't think the percentage of good ones has changed much. If software quality is decreasing (something of which I'm not convinced either), I'd blame it on the complexity of applications outstripping our advances in being able to deal with complexity. The community's tendancy to cling to obsolte tools certianly doesn't help matters either. One could also blame the rise of the consumer market for software, and that market's inherent disincentive to quality (price and schedule are vital there, and you only get to pick 2 of the three). Anyway, I'd personally blame all our troubles on "Visual" programming environments. :-) --- T.E.D. homepage - http://www.telepath.com/dennison/Ted/TED.html home email - mailto:dennison@telepath.com