From: Robin Vowels <robin.vowels@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Does Ada need elemental functions to make it suitable for scientific work?
Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:39:58 -0700 (PDT)
Date: 2012-07-29T06:39:58-07:00 [thread overview]
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On Jul 12, 5:12 pm, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mail...@dmitry-kazakov.de>
wrote:
> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:31:33 -0700 (PDT), rrrrrrr@gmail.com wrote:
> >> It is ill-defined. E.g. exp(A), where A is a matrix. Is exp(A) a matrix of
> >> exponents or exponent matrix?
>
> > In languages that provide whole array operations (i.e.,
> > element-by-element operations -- such as PL/I and Fortran),
> > it is the former.
>
> > BTW., I think you mean matrix exponential, which is a far
> > less common operation than exp(A) or e**A(i) for i = 1 to n,
>
> In linear algebra, provided matrices mean matrices, per-element operation
> just does not make any sense.
Element-by-element operations are required routinely in numerical
work. They have been demanded and have been available since
at least 1955.
> Exp(A), as well as power series are fairly
> common in spectral analysis.
>
> > and would be written MATRIX_EXPONENTIAL or some such,
> > just as matrix multiplication would be written MATRIX_MULT
> > or some such, to distinguish it from the more common
> > element-by-element product.
>
> My FORTRAN and PL/1 are quite rusty, but even these incredibly poor
> languages did not define multiplication for matrices that way.
PL/I defined multiplication for matrices as an element-by-element
product, as I said before.
Back then, FORTRAN did not offer such operations on matrices,
however it now does, and has done so since Fortran 90.
> In fact they
> just had no matrices last time I used either.
Back then, both PL/I and FORTRAN offered matrices (and still do).
For that matter, both offered multi-dimensional arrays (and still do).
> I remember one library for sparse matrices in FORTRAN-IV, doing LU
> decomposition and other stuff. It was quite fun. The library was in fact
> very well-designed, but since FORTRAN-IV lacked even elementary data types,
FORTRAN always has had elementary data types.
> they did all memory management required using INTEGER*4 as an index in one
> huge REAL*4 array, serving as a memory pool.
That's because FORTRAN IV did not have dynamic arrays.
PL/I did, of course, from the first compilers in c. 1966.
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2012-07-09 23:27 Does Ada need elemental functions to make it suitable for scientific work? Nasser M. Abbasi
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2012-07-10 4:22 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-10 14:26 ` Marco
2012-07-10 4:24 ` gautier_niouzes
2012-07-10 5:22 ` Ada novice
2012-07-10 7:27 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-10 8:06 ` gautier_niouzes
[not found] ` <637de084-0e71-4077-a1c5-fc4200cad3cf@googlegroups.com>
2012-07-10 8:39 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-10 8:58 ` Ada novice
2012-07-10 9:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-10 9:21 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-10 9:26 ` Nasser M. Abbasi
2012-07-10 9:50 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-20 1:56 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-20 21:49 ` Adam Beneschan
2012-07-12 0:31 ` robin.vowels
2012-07-12 7:12 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-29 13:39 ` Robin Vowels [this message]
2012-07-29 14:22 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-29 20:54 ` glen herrmannsfeldt
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2012-07-30 4:15 ` glen herrmannsfeldt
[not found] ` <nfhd181tv9u87mcqfb7rgd8lm48ihr9f4r@invalid.netcom.com>
2012-07-31 8:53 ` MATRIX MULTIPLICATION Robin Vowels
2012-07-31 9:05 ` Robin Vowels
2012-07-30 0:49 ` Does Ada need elemental functions to make it suitable for scientific work? Robin Vowels
2012-07-12 0:22 ` robin.vowels
2012-07-20 1:51 ` Randy Brukardt
2012-07-29 13:53 ` Robin Vowels
2012-07-29 15:51 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-07-29 16:07 ` Dmitry A. Kazakov
2012-07-29 20:30 ` Simon Wright
2012-07-29 20:59 ` glen herrmannsfeldt
2012-07-29 21:44 ` J-P. Rosen
2012-07-29 22:54 ` Simon Wright
2012-07-30 0:53 ` Robin Vowels
2012-07-30 2:20 ` Shmuel Metz
2012-07-10 12:46 ` Brian Drummond
2012-07-10 11:06 ` Simon Wright
2012-07-10 11:59 ` Georg Bauhaus
2012-07-10 12:20 ` Brian Drummond
2012-07-10 19:52 ` Ada novice
2012-07-11 8:41 ` gautier_niouzes
2012-07-11 9:42 ` Ken Thomas
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