From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM, REPLYTO_WITHOUT_TO_CC autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,a1ce307c10055549 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2002-12-16 06:24:08 PST Path: archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!newsfeed.stanford.edu!canoe.uoregon.edu!arclight.uoregon.edu!news.infoave.net!newsfeed1.easynews.com!easynews.com!easynews!cyclone.swbell.net!bos-service1.ext.raytheon.com!bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com.POSTED!not-for-mail From: Wes Groleau Reply-To: wesgroleau@despammed.com User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.0; en-US; rv:1.1) Gecko/20020826 X-Accept-Language: en,es-MX,es,pt,fr-CA,fr MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: IBM Acquires Rational Ada References: <3DF1615C.7AAAC86E@adaworks.com> <3DF1B042.6603DDDE@easystreet.com> <3DF2A483.EC512CDF@adaworks.com> <8db3d6c8.0212091445.12594821@posting.google.com> <3DF628C4.7090607@cogeco.ca> <3DF8D8BF.9020606@cogeco.ca> <3DF978DE.B4C2A2C1@adaworks.com> <1ZlK9.2246$c6.2601@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <0YkL9.2262$c6.2398@bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com> Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:56:02 -0500 NNTP-Posting-Host: 151.168.133.155 X-Complaints-To: news@ext.ray.com X-Trace: bos-service2.ext.raytheon.com 1040046972 151.168.133.155 (Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:56:12 EST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 08:56:12 EST Organization: Raytheon Company Xref: archiver1.google.com comp.lang.ada:31892 Date: 2002-12-16T08:56:02-05:00 List-Id: > Sounds like a good start. Problem 1: Is any of that stuff available under > any kind of license that lets someone else use/develop it? Problem 2: It is my belief that since we (the taxpayers) paid for it, we (the taxpayers) can get the source, provided it isn't classified--which it shouldn't be, being a general-purpose database. > Assuming it were available, would any of the vendors (or their existing > customers) start clammoring to have it incorporated in their products? Don't know. They might if they knew about it. But they might prefer to get it from the developer, _with_support_ > Problem 3: Is it sufficiently powerful - or at least offering something > new/unique - that it could compete against other database products? Seemed like it to me. But contact Lockheed-Martin, Boxo 4840, Syracuse, NY for the details. They do not seem to be agressively marketing it. I did not work directly on RTDB and I left GE/Martin/Lockheed before the successor, FIRM, came along. But I liked what I read about both. One thing I _did_ work on there was, in the opinion of several of us, a very useful testing tool. We tried to get the company to market it, and we were told "We are not a tools business." BTW, RTDB = Real-Time DataBase. A fast _and_ deterministic component for a hard-real-time _large_ military system. > I don't want to shoot down a good idea - just trying to raise the issues > that would need to be addressed if persuing the matter further is to have > any success. Its sort of like raising the issue of the Booch Components as a > conventional part of Ada - The vendors don't seem to be itching to put them I understand. But you did suggest developing a database, and I figured mentioning the existence of a good one couldn't hurt.