From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,3e26dfa741e64e5f X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news4.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!nx01.iad01.newshosting.com!newshosting.com!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!colt.net!news.nl.colt.net!newsgate.cistron.nl!feeder1.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!news2.euro.net!fi.sn.net!newsfeed2.fi.sn.net!newsfeed3.funet.fi!newsfeeds.funet.fi!feeder2.news.jippii.net!reader1.news.jippii.net!53ab2750!not-for-mail From: Niklas Holsti Organization: Tidorum Ltd User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050513 Debian/1.7.8-1 X-Accept-Language: en MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: GNAT GPL 2005 Edition is now available References: <432919be$0$10539$4d4eb98e@read.news.fr.uu.net> <1126773856.876636.265130@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> In-Reply-To: <1126773856.876636.265130@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <0QiXe.25752$v8.23575@reader1.news.jippii.net> Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 21:59:40 +0300 NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.17.205.61 X-Complaints-To: newsmaster@saunalahti.com X-Trace: reader1.news.jippii.net 1127070076 81.17.205.61 (Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:01:16 EEST) NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:01:16 EEST Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:4880 Date: 2005-09-18T21:59:40+03:00 List-Id: Ludovic Brenta wrote: > > Please take into account that recent versions of ASIS and GLADE are > only available under GPL, not GMGPL. The same is true for AWS, > GtkAda, XML/Ada etc. but is less of a concern because these libraries > are not tightly coupled with the compiler. > > Please cast a vote on this forum. This is the time to influence the > next version of Debian. I applaud Ludovic for arranging this vote (and I voted already). However, I think that Ludovic should not feel *bound* to choose the alternative that gets the most votes; at least I did not mean my vote to have that effect. I understood -- perhaps selfishly -- the question to be "what sort of GNAT compiler do you, as a Debian Ada user, need for what you are doing" and I voted from that perspective. But perhaps the choice of the next Debian Ada compiler should depend more on attracting *new* Ada users. It seems to me that this would give more importance to good support of Ada 2005 and ASIS and GLADE, to make the full, modern Ada technology available on Debian. Therefore, I urge Ludovic to override my vote for a GMGPL GNAT if it conflicts with good support of Ada 2005, ASIS and GLADE. Practically speaking, it is probably a lot easier for me to install a GMGPL version of GNAT (perhaps an older one) without ASIS and GLADE (which I don't need) than it is for Ludovic and his team to make ASIS and GLADE work with a GNAT distribution that does not come from AdaCore. I would also like to ask the group's opinion on a licensing issue related to the above. Suppose that GNAT GPL 2005 is chosen as the new Debian Ada compiler, but I want to install a GNAT with a GMGPL library. Supppose further that I get the sources for such a GNAT and compile it (compiler and libraries) with GNAT GPL 2005. The resulting compiler is under the strict GPL since it contains the strict GPL library. However, as I understand it, application programs compiled with the resulting compiler and linked with its GMGPL library are not GPL, but can be distributed as binary only. Do you agree? I know that no-one (?) here is a lawyer, but I would value your opinion on this. -- Niklas Holsti Tidorum Ltd niklas holsti tidorum fi . @ .