From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,37c1639cf6a3bbba,start X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news1.google.com!news3.google.com!feeder3.cambrium.nl!feeder5.cambrium.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!68.142.88.75.MISMATCH!hwmnpeer01.ams!news.highwinds-media.com!hw-filter.ams!newsfet01.ams.POSTED!40385e62!not-for-mail From: Per Sandberg User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.6 (Windows/20070728) MIME-Version: 1.0 Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: A scary story from the real world. Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-ID: <0Q0Zi.409$CT3.318@newsfet01.ams> X-Complaints-To: abuse@WWWSpace.NET NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 12:31:40 EST Date: Fri, 09 Nov 2007 18:33:36 +0100 Xref: g2news1.google.com comp.lang.ada:18232 Date: 2007-11-09T18:33:36+01:00 List-Id: I was on a conference this week and that opened my eyes on the complete ignorance of good compilers and languages in some the Reliable SW communities. http://www.issre2007.hv.se/extra/pod/ There was lots of talks about on how to detect values out of bounds and other problems that reasonable languages with type-system would find probably at compile time. One Microsoft person said "we had lots of crashes in the system and the cause of that was that the driver vendors did not look on the return code from functions" Then the blamed the poor programmer for not reading the secret "users manual". /Per