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>And there was Joss, which ran on the Johnniac.  That was an early step
>toward end-user programming.
  Toward the other end of the time-scale, T/Maker (an early competitor to
Visicalc) came from a programmer in a bank MIS department who got sick
of requests for simple tabular data reports that came to the MIS
department and spent months getting approved and assigned and then
hours getting implemented.  So that style still existed in the early '80s.