From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Path: g2news2.google.com!postnews.google.com!u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Isaac Gouy Newsgroups: comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.c++,comp.programming Subject: Re: Alternatives to C: ObjectPascal, Eiffel, Ada or Modula-3? Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 14:44:50 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <097dbb22-3f94-48ca-bb71-d6615497589a@u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com> References: <2009a75f-63e7-485e-9d9f-955e456578ed@v37g2000prg.googlegroups.com> <0bdf3c02-0565-40e2-95cc-c7f5eb546313@2g2000prl.googlegroups.com> <7xmy6mzy0q.fsf@ruckus.brouhaha.com> <4a714308$0$30229$9b4e6d93@newsspool1.arcor-online.net> <48679a94-4ce4-422e-8656-56bb682b08c0@d15g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <4a71c5f0$0$31880$9b4e6d93@newsspool3.arcor-online.net> <8d2fb978-19d3-46fb-baf3-4e82b5a96ac9@d15g2000prc.googlegroups.com> <878534cf-fc84-49b8-af29-78446bf6fbd4@i18g2000pro.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 76.102.15.45 Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: posting.google.com 1248990290 17024 127.0.0.1 (30 Jul 2009 21:44:50 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 21:44:50 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: u16g2000pru.googlegroups.com; posting-host=76.102.15.45; posting-account=8hLxJgkAAAAL8xHLJ0ljKM_bUSuq3O6V User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.0.12) Gecko/2009070811 Ubuntu/9.04 (jaunty) Firefox/3.0.12,gzip(gfe),gzip(gfe) Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.scheme:6224 comp.lang.ada:7470 comp.lang.functional:2565 comp.lang.c++:48724 comp.programming:12172 Date: 2009-07-30T14:44:50-07:00 List-Id: On Jul 30, 12:38=A0pm, fft1976 wrote: > On Jul 30, 10:59=A0am, Isaac Gouy wrote: > > > "shaky results"? Didn't you confirm those results yourself? > > Perhaps he is referring to I/O being the bottleneck. I have to say, if > this is true, it undermines the usefulness of the benchmark to me. > > Take it easy. His measurements suggest about 1.7s of a 6s difference might be accounted for by slow Text_IO in programs that write 245MB. The benchmarks game measurements are made with stdout redirected to / dev/null - we don't know if that was also the case for the measurements reported by Georg Bauhaus.