From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 107f24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid107f24,public X-Google-Thread: f4fd2,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gidf4fd2,public X-Google-Thread: 103d24,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid103d24,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,ea8ea502d35ca2ce X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 114809,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid114809,public X-Google-Thread: 1164ba,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid1164ba,public X-Google-Thread: 10259a,626a0a064b320310 X-Google-Attributes: gid10259a,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2001-05-16 18:32:05 PST Path: archiver1.sj.google.com!newsfeed.google.com!sn-xit-03!supernews.com!logbridge.uoregon.edu!netnews.com!newsfeed2.earthlink.net!newsfeed.earthlink.net!newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net!newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net.POSTED!not-for-mail From: a@b.c Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.lisp,comp.lang.smalltalk,comp.lang.basic,comp.lang.functional,comp.lang.scheme,comp.lang.perl Subject: Re: Beginner's Language? Message-ID: <07a6gt8v3c5vd229vqn7gpg5e4fmlq19r5@4ax.com> References: <9cukad$nn68@news-dxb> <9d6b6e$1bt$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87snihxiwc.fsf@frown.here> <9dbi83$sji$1@nh.pace.co.uk> <87heyu7cqd.fsf@frown.here> <9dc20p$hh15e$1@ID-37382.news.dfncis.de> <3B003CA2.D24D083C@research.bell-labs.com> <3b02a7d0$1@news.microsoft.com> <3B02E7E3.D3640D53@research.bell-labs.com> X-Newsreader: Forte Agent 1.8/32.548 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Thu, 17 May 2001 01:29:40 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 63.253.109.12 X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 990062980 63.253.109.12 (Wed, 16 May 2001 18:29:40 PDT) NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 18:29:40 PDT Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net X-Received-Date: Wed, 16 May 2001 18:28:01 PDT (newsmaster1.prod.itd.earthlink.net) Xref: archiver1.sj.google.com comp.lang.ada:7601 comp.lang.lisp:10196 comp.lang.smalltalk:9746 comp.lang.functional:5687 comp.lang.scheme:3862 comp.lang.perl:2794 Date: 2001-05-17T01:29:40+00:00 List-Id: On Wed, 16 May 2001 16:49:39 -0400, Matthias Blume wrote: >is pointless, and I DO NOT agree about functions. In C functions are function >pointers, and they are completely first-class because they can be used "as In C, a function has to have a name, and it can't be instantiated at run time from data available only at run time. If that's first class, what class is a Lisp lambda? Do ordinal numbers go that low?