From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,5af5c381381ac5a7 X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder1-2.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!ecngs!feeder2.ecngs.de!feeder.erje.net!news2.arglkargh.de!news.theremailer.net!frell.theremailer.net!anonymous DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; q=dns/txt; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=frell.theremailer.net; s=remailer; h=Message-ID:Subject:Newsgroups:Comments:From:Date; bh=JR2NIt/0yvFaDk8zYXk2vyFx7/INNTExlYGEcB+m3Qc=; b=At8dHoyfolgSc1sRlnKo78ulDR6O8tuEs4FOZOn3zrYpabIoaGa6XxM1XO0BNZkZhslpGQ47cGtvAckYHSitHP/dK1aoef4TF6SBOVlL/fmAmh8/7w+O+/yDe2gkqXdZGSBrwKEkTCegKyuKSRJoPW/GP2u8gBMgc8KXtCEY+LPkyBdGxSpW9BEIWInvz30l9lulwj7aJ7vDTMKof/Oh/SVeCK/+d55jpWUXJ9bu9v8lqX0K4PezORbeN9QXVIoF4PIJnwQK/C8J4mlxwQSRlC90bYosuISntvMaNbCKhbzAVGb+9bKBtD0LHqfc3Rz5ZxmUjDHrnc054Gxd2IqOx7s=; Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 04:07:19 +0200 From: Fritz Wuehler Comments: This message did not originate from the Sender address above. It was remailed automatically by anonymizing remailer software. Please report problems or inappropriate use to the remailer administrator at . Identifying the real sender is technically impossible. Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: Ada requires too much typing! References: <4bfd19ba$0$2362$4d3efbfe@news.sover.net> Message-ID: <0620a415e6bbc1a5629e906e27bec5cb@msgid.frell.theremailer.net> Precedence: anon Mail-To-News-Contact: abuse@frell.theremailer.net Organization: Frell Anonymous Remailer Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:12063 Date: 2010-05-27T04:07:19+02:00 List-Id: Like anything you need to strike a balance. As many people know, Ada was designed to be read. It is one of the best in that regard, probably only COBOL comes close and it's not nearly as powerful. Extremes in the the direction of terseness are APL and Perl. They can be impossible to read. Sometimes even reading code you wrote last week is hard. I'm sure there are others but those two come to mind at the moment. People mostly lack discipline and gravitate towards lazy practices. C++ coders often call Ada (if they even hear about it) verbose. It's silly, but I really don't care. It's their problem, not ours. Sloppy code can be written in any language, and unfortunately it's proven in practice. Still, sloppy code in some languages is easier to understand than others, but Ada makes it harder than average to write sloppy code that's also wrong. There's also the matter of aesthetics. Most programming languages (especially C and Java and their offspring) are just ugly. I prefer ALGOL and its derivatives, in my view they're prettier, cleaner, and better. To each his own, but don't expect me to read your crap if you code it in C, C++, or Java!