From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,21960280f1d61e84 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: g2news2.google.com!news3.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!local01.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.megapath.net!news.megapath.net.POSTED!not-for-mail NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:54:48 -0600 From: "Randy Brukardt" Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada References: <1169531612.200010.153120@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> Subject: Re: How come Ada isn't more popular? Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2007 17:56:12 -0600 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1807 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1807 Message-ID: <05OdnVQZiIrVFCPYnZ2dnUVZ_h2pnZ2d@megapath.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: 64.32.209.38 X-Trace: sv3-8t2NxKkhFH3As1RnUbDG+Lu6G+ukx5Mto4SCfTLDNXmAFzoRSvcWdJHO9/Iv3tyepcHaiHCbcmydY4i!0Az/BO2iL/SlMqcCUOEyJdmEQJTDMliLqvOrigp/s5ArgBdZQJ9FKNK1NkmaqNT+upUNYEFcLda0!2D007ORutAk0Ug== X-Complaints-To: abuse@megapath.net X-DMCA-Complaints-To: abuse@megapath.net X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Please be sure to forward a copy of ALL headers X-Abuse-and-DMCA-Info: Otherwise we will be unable to process your complaint properly X-Postfilter: 1.3.32 Xref: g2news2.google.com comp.lang.ada:8694 Date: 2007-01-29T17:56:12-06:00 List-Id: "Charles D Hixson" wrote in message news:WaBuh.15096$pQ3.10501@newsread4.news.pas.earthlink.net... ... > Ada subsets couldn't > use the name Ada. Janus Ada couldn't call itself Ada for > quite awhile. And even Janus Ada couldn't run on most CP/M > machines. Too resource intensive. I bought an Apple ][ to > run UCSD Pascal, and was so disappointed that I saved up and > installed a CP/M card so that I could run C. Ada wasn't a > possibility. (I never seriously considered Basic. It was too > non-portable. If I wanted non-portable, I'd go for assembler.) This is somewhat confused. Janus/Ada started out as an Ada subset on CP/M. Indeed, Apple II CP/M boards were our number 1 platform for several years in the 1980s. We never actually owned an Apple machine ourselves (we used the machine of a friend for testing and copying of literally hundreds of floppy disks). Janus/Ada for CP/M ran on any machine with a 56K TPA area, which was the vast majority of them that had a full 64K of memory. (Early versions used even less memory. Nowdays, it's hard to imagine a time when 16K memory boards cost several hundred dollars each; a modern machine has 16,000 times as much memory for the same money!) So Ada *was* a possibility on CP/M. Our early IBM PC versions only required 256K machines. But a complete implementation of Ada 83 a few years later did take a full 640K machine. Randy.