From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: 103376,a850d20bfa8f3a85 X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,domainid0,public,usenet X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.68.75.170 with SMTP id d10mr3616756pbw.6.1326369551002; Thu, 12 Jan 2012 03:59:11 -0800 (PST) Path: lh20ni173610pbb.0!nntp.google.com!news1.google.com!postnews.google.com!r5g2000yqc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Maciej Sobczak Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Subject: Re: C++ on the Down Slope? Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 03:53:19 -0800 (PST) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <04337cd0-6956-412c-a1ef-3376b5eb7007@r5g2000yqc.googlegroups.com> References: <1kdog45.122iy7ikvhb9zN%csampson@inetworld.net> <1zpdlrlos3n8.vwyynkgg661c.dlg@40tude.net> <6066d344-1a62-4723-92ed-2b020fafa003@z1g2000vbx.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 83.3.40.82 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1326369550 6823 127.0.0.1 (12 Jan 2012 11:59:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 11:59:10 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: r5g2000yqc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=83.3.40.82; posting-account=bMuEOQoAAACUUr_ghL3RBIi5neBZ5w_S User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-Google-Web-Client: true X-Google-Header-Order: HUALESNKRC X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; en-US; rv:1.9.2.13) Gecko/20101203 Firefox/3.6.13,gzip(gfe) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-01-12T03:53:19-08:00 List-Id: On Jan 11, 11:29=A0am, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote: > The crowd choosing C# now would likely chose C++ before. Both respond to > the same attitude to programming. Nonsense. C# is "Java done right by Microsoft" (whatever "right" means here) and its main points of attraction are strong emphasis on OO, reference- semantics and garbage collection. Interestingly, Java and C# are so much similar to each other that you can often just take a Java project and literally recode it line-to- line into C#. In many cases even the standard library functions are the same and differ only in casing. I've seen it happen, it's not a joke. C++ is very much opposed to these two with its value-semantics, no push towards OO and no garbage collection. In this regard C++ is much closer to Ada than to Java/C#. I understand that you wish to see C++ as your enemy, but please create another enemy category for it and don't mix it with C#. Or Java. -- Maciej Sobczak * http://www.msobczak.com * http://www.inspirel.com