From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,FORGED_GMAIL_RCVD, FREEMAIL_FROM autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Thread: a07f3367d7,ab436e97ff76821f X-Google-Attributes: gida07f3367d7,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII Received: by 10.224.180.205 with SMTP id bv13mr14728299qab.8.1343924365775; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:19:25 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.58.254.39 with SMTP id af7mr3450392ved.41.1343910054585; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 05:20:54 -0700 (PDT) Path: c6ni1680qas.0!nntp.google.com!r1no8530986qas.0!news-out.google.com!a15ni8267430qag.0!nntp.google.com!border1.nntp.dca.giganews.com!nntp.giganews.com!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!news.matabio.net!jeffrey.matabio.net!thue.elzevir.fr!nntpfeed.proxad.net!proxad.net!feeder1-1.proxad.net!198.186.194.247.MISMATCH!news-out.readnews.com!transit3.readnews.com!postnews.google.com!tz10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com!not-for-mail From: Robin Vowels Newsgroups: comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.pl1 Subject: Re: Does Ada need elemental functions to make it suitable for scientific work? Date: Sun, 29 Jul 2012 17:49:57 -0700 (PDT) Organization: http://groups.google.com Message-ID: <0202afca-3116-4763-83df-4f9b578ea4d1@tz10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com> References: <18c77859-480c-41f5-bb1c-df7ad067f4f3@googlegroups.com> <637de084-0e71-4077-a1c5-fc4200cad3cf@googlegroups.com> <1wqz1wr8wto96.1fwpyip6ct1z9.dlg@40tude.net> <3e3487d1-c6e8-47d2-b75b-f9aedafed4ff@googlegroups.com> <0a4d8d8d-834b-4851-9a3a-f7867e779ebe@d6g2000pbt.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: 123.2.70.40 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Trace: posting.google.com 1343609493 3999 127.0.0.1 (30 Jul 2012 00:51:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2012 00:51:33 +0000 (UTC) Complaints-To: groups-abuse@google.com Injection-Info: tz10g2000pbc.googlegroups.com; posting-host=123.2.70.40; posting-account=S_MdrwoAAAD7T2pxG2e393dk6y0tc0Le User-Agent: G2/1.0 X-HTTP-UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:13.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/13.0.1,gzip(gfe) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Date: 2012-07-29T17:49:57-07:00 List-Id: On Jul 30, 12:22=A0am, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" wrote: > On Sun, 29 Jul 2012 06:39:58 -0700 (PDT), Robin Vowels wrote: > > On Jul 12, 5:12=A0pm, "Dmitry A. Kazakov" > > wrote: > >> On Wed, 11 Jul 2012 17:31:33 -0700 (PDT), rrrr...@gmail.com wrote: > >>>> It is ill-defined. E.g. exp(A), where A is a matrix. Is exp(A) a mat= rix of > >>>> exponents or exponent matrix? > > >>> In languages that provide whole array operations (i.e., > >>> element-by-element operations -- such as PL/I and Fortran), > >>> it is the former. > > >>> BTW., I think you mean matrix exponential, which is a far > >>> less common operation than exp(A) or e**A(i) for i =3D 1 to n, > > >> In linear algebra, provided matrices mean matrices, per-element operat= ion > >> just does not make any sense. > > > Element-by-element operations are required routinely in numerical > > work. > > I wrote specifically about matrices as known in linear algebra. > > > PL/I defined multiplication for matrices as an element-by-element > > product, as I said before. > > Sorry for PL/1! Nothing to be sorry about. Trivial to use from the PL/I library or to write. Term-by-term multiplication is the more often used (along with term-by-term add, subtract, and divide).