From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: *** X-Spam-Status: No, score=3.8 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID, RATWARE_MS_HASH,RATWARE_OUTLOOK_NONAME autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fac41,995c28f68b9dc343 X-Google-Attributes: gidfac41,public X-Google-Thread: f43e6,995c28f68b9dc343 X-Google-Attributes: gidf43e6,public X-Google-Thread: 103376,995c28f68b9dc343 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public X-Google-Thread: 107d55,995c28f68b9dc343 X-Google-Attributes: gid107d55,public X-Google-Thread: 1108a1,995c28f68b9dc343 X-Google-Attributes: gid1108a1,public X-Google-Thread: 109fba,995c28f68b9dc343 X-Google-Attributes: gid109fba,public From: "Veli-Pekka Nousiainen" Subject: Re: The great Java showcase (re: 2nd historic mistake) Date: 1997/09/02 Message-ID: <01bcb7a6$9a820e40$108142c1@Yeif-1.eiffel.fi>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 269519864 References: <5u5m5b$7q6$1@news2.digex.net> <5ue2sn$32g$2@miranda.gmrc.gecm.com> Organization: AMT Oy Newsgroups: comp.object,comp.software-eng,comp.lang.ada,comp.lang.eiffel,comp.lang.java.tech,comp.lang.c++ Date: 1997-09-02T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: Robert Dewar wrote in article ... > Paul says > > < it is a matter of doing a better job.>> > > Sure, but who judges what is a better job. The answer is that the only > person who can judge is the consumer. The VHS vs Beta example is a good > one from this point of view. The tecnical folks at Sony thought that > image quality was *the* important technical quality. But they were wrong, > and they paid for their mistake. In fact playing time was much more > important to the public. > > Now some techie may say "stupid public, they don't know what is important", > but it is such misjudgments by technical people on what is important that > leaves quite a trail of business disasters behind. > I can *NOT* choose my programming language as a consumer of those languages. * * * THIS IS NOT A CONSUMER DRIVEN MARKET * * * It is my father (my boss) who is first persuaded by MicroS*it markedroids to believe that you can not possibly choose a niche product no matter how superior it is. And man, I tell U, U'd better take this C++ deal, otherwise other bosses think that you've lost your marbles and do not wanna that, do U ?!! So here I was, stuck with pile of what I have known to be (IMO) a pile of s*it. I LEFT THE COMPANY and now I am working with the Finnish Eiffel Distributor. Call this position heaven first, but I should convince the bosses that: hey man, whut you're using now, is not gonna work. Ask your workers !! They'll tell that Eiffel (or Ada or ...) is better. Listen to them and keep them happy! Otherwise U may lose your best wo/men... Whut have happened to me, I sound like a markedroid... Goodbye real world, welcome virtuality.