From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.4.4 (2020-01-24) on polar.synack.me X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.3 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,INVALID_MSGID autolearn=no autolearn_force=no version=3.4.4 X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 103376,39c299e1a336f754 X-Google-Attributes: gid103376,public From: Neil O'Brien Subject: RE: Ada for the Mac Date: 1996/09/11 Message-ID: <01bba01a.de3aa600$fc899dc0@fielding.east.alsys.com>#1/1 X-Deja-AN: 180111384 sender: news@thomsoft.com references: <32237B8F.6DC7@xmission.com> <00001a73+000033a9@msn.com> <322ED21A.678@thomsoft.com> <01bb9e89.5ee38da0$fc899dc0@fielding.east.alsys.com> organization: Thomson Software Products newsgroups: comp.lang.ada Date: 1996-09-11T00:00:00+00:00 List-Id: On Tuesday, September 10, 1996, Robert Dewar wrote... > Neil O'Brien says > > "You sort of answered your own statement, we never upgraded because it was > originally a product too few customers wanted. A perception (valid or not) > is that the mac is not a serious development platform for embedded systems > (and markets where Ada / Ada95 is generally strong), whilst that > perception continues I doubt if any vendor is willing to swallow the > development costs in the hope a market would be able to pay back these > development costs and support future upgrades. > " > > Neil may speak for Tompson, but he should not speak for "any vendor". > > Ada Core Technologies will be fully supporting GNAT on the Mac Power PC > platform, using MachTen as the development environment (rather than > MPW as had been used by Mac Ada compilers in the past -- Machten provides > a familiar Unix environment). Applications can be generated to either > run under Machten, which is fully integrated with System 7, or under > System 7 directly. > > Like other GNAT compilers, and unlike other available Ada 95 technology, > the GNAT compiler for the Mac is a full language compiler including support > for all special needs annexes, and all the familiar GNAT tools are also > available. > > I certainly can't speak for Tompson's customer base, but we already have > serious commercial interest in support for this port. > > Robert Dewar > Ada Core Technologies > > I never claimed to speak for any vendor much less Thomson (that's with an "h" and without the "p" Robert :-)) although I have to admit that I was not considering ACT when I should have, certainly with GNAT paving the way it would not be inconceivable for others to follow given the way GNAT has led into Ada/Ada95 for other markets - NOTE, this is my opinion and not in any way to be considered as an official view or statement of intent by TSP to do so. I still stand by my original statement though that "whilst that perception continues I doubt if any vendor is willing to swallow the development costs in the hope a market would be able to pay back these development costs and support future upgrades." obviously you feel the market is there and will risk the investment in development costs which is more than just a "hope" - ie you wouldn't have done this without feeling the market will more than pay back the costs? correct? therefore my statement was not wrong just not quite as clear as it should have been. -- ========================================================= Neil O'Brien obrien@east.thomsoft.com Customer Support (617) 221 7320 Thomson Software Products They're the wrong trousers Grommit, and they've gone wrong!